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Harry Potter fans?
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<mod>I merged "Harry Potter fans?" to existing Harry Potter topic /Magnus</mod>
OK, me and padfootandprongs can't be the only fans of Harry Potter in this huge community. What's your favorite book, characters, etc? While a fan, do you have any criticisms? This thread is for the future classic books, not for the pathetic movie rip-offs.

Oh, and my favorite characters are Sirius, Harry, Hermione, Lupin, Draco, Fred+George, Tonks, and Snape.


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Re: Harry Potter fans?
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Rod Serling wrote:
OK, me and padfootandprongs can't be the only fans of Harry Potter in this huge community.


Of corse not!! :D

Rod Serling wrote:
What's your favorite book, characters, etc? While a fan, do you have any criticisms?


The last book is the best for me. It's great in itself but it also wraps up everything perfectly.

Characters.... hm. Sir Cadogan is great!! Maybe the funniest one in the book! (ok, maybe there are others...) I don't know, I can't chose, there all great.... shy2

I don't think I have any criticism... As I said, I loved the ending. For the last book, on a 1 to 10 scale I was expecting for a 10. I was expecting also to be surprised by a 11 or 12. But when I read it.... I'd say it was like... 287! ^^

Anyway,

Rod Serling wrote:
This thread is for the future classic books, not for the pathetic movie rip-offs.


Thats great to haer. I just feel so sad/mad when people say
"I hate Harry Potter."
"Did you read the books?"
"No, I just saw the movies..."
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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2008  Reply with quote

I sorta read the first four books and I didn't really care for them. But I did like the Harry Potter movies.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2008  Reply with quote

Hey, I'm an HP fan! Sorry I haven't fully expressed my HP lurve in the forums. shy2

Favorite Book: Probably the 5th or 6th one. The 5th was such a delicious "secret school rebellion" story that each new report on the bureaucratic battles inside the school added to my profound love of the book. The 6th was just so detailed in regards to the world of Hogwarts (and our little Main Characters growing up, awwwww...) that I enjoyed it despite my relatively advanced age at the time compared to my mindset when I read the other books.

Favorite Movie: Third. Hands down. An elegant movie adaptation of a book, not a movie trying to be a book — that always feels kind of awkward. neutral

Favorite Character: Hermione (for the first couple of books). Weirdly enough, Harry started to become my favorite character for the later books. Not entirely sure why. (Don't feel like putting down a full speculation right now!) But I love Tonks, although I wish she was in the books as a far more central character. And Luna (in the books and in the movie)!

Critique:
The Good
+ Characters that aged and grew - metaphysically as well as physically.
+ A narrative that also grew and grew and grew until it gained hundreds of pages (which now qualifies the acceptance of equally large books in the Young Adult publishing community - yay!). An entire universe of characters, all major and minor, were created.
+ The universal nature of the books' appeal.
+ A unique spin on wizards that guarantee that another book on wizards with boring clichés will not be published for a loooong time (another yay! But original series that defy clichés are just fine by me, 'kay?)
+ The Point of View. The books just couldn't have been conveyed in any other way.
+ Snape. Guy gets the best plot twists ever in the 6th and 7th books. In the end, he was quite touching.

The Bad
+ I wanted Hermione in the epilogue, in the flesh, as an independent butt-kicking witch. I know, I'm picky...and she couldn't satisfy everyone. *sigh*
+ The last book, while good, was not a stand-out in my mind. Still high-quality, though.
+ The "monster of the year" scenario (how will Voldy magically reappear this year? Who will be the c-c-craaaazy DADA teacher this year?) that started to play out in the books before it was finally resolved once and for all with the 5th book/end of the 4th. Luckily, as the plots got more complex, this issue rapidly faded. (The monsters are all around you, and they don't even know it...Umbridge, that sort of thing)
+ OK, I'm no shipper, but I never saw the Ginny thing coming. It's not really bad, it's just mildly confusing to me. Not really even JKR's fault.

The Ugly / Really Really Bad
+ I really can't think of anything too bad. Even the stuff above (in the "bad" list) is mostly my personal opinion, and stuff that JKR really couldn't change without also making others unhappy with the book. (With various exceptions)
+ Certain elements of the community got kind of obsessed in a very ugly way. The kind that starts...

shippahwarz. anx

Thanks for the fun post, guys! grin


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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2008  Reply with quote

Deimos Braun wrote:
Favorite Movie: Third. Hands down. An elegant movie adaptation of a book, not a movie trying to be a book — that always feels kind of awkward. neutral


Even though it gets a lot of flack, and rightly so for the exclusion of explaining the Mauraders, I agree. The first 3 films WERE the best, after that, even with the few aspects that could have been improved on with SS, CoS, and PoA, they far surpass the more recent additions. It's one thing to cut irrelevant parts of the books for time(despite the fact that the films can be longer), it's another thing altogether when major, important things are scratched and replaced with a scene of a whole plot that never happened.


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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2008  Reply with quote

OMG I SOOO LOVE HARRY POTTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think my favoret charecters are the twins, tonks, harry, hermione, ginny, ron, luna, and nevil.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2008  Reply with quote

also I thought the seventh book was really sad, I cried and just thought about it for days.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2008  Reply with quote

If anybody likes HP fanfiction, FictionAlley is the best.

http://www.fictionalley.org/


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