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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

Since she's VB she would override the line so vi,2,3,4 etc remain that way but the order would become MV > VB > 1 > 2 > 3 in terms of deaths. That way they don't need to be renumbered. But yes I think this is best because if the VB was killed the next day by blessing or garlic it would make the MV too powerful by way of probability.


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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

going to be interesting when a male player becomes vampire bride ....... kiekeboe


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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

This is a progressive forum moogle


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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

vampire groom? tounge2

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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

Vampire spouse how's that? tounge2


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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

fine, as long as we call the female MV the Mistress Vampire or something? tounge2

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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

Vampire's Consort would encompass every combination possible. ^^

But I like Vampire Bride better. wiske



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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

Ebilshrimp wrote:
I'll be using the Vampire bride, my thoughts for refining it are, maybe instead of the MV biting twice (which could actually end up in heavy vampire casualties), I'm thinking since he's enraged (empowered) his bite becomes immune. Which means blessed and garlic will not effect that night.


Isnt MV immune to blessed/garlic always?

i know what you mean but felt the need to point that out and since the bride/apoise/ companion is in effect the last vamp before MV order wise, it doesnt have any effect what soever.

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- what happens when VC / VB / VS or how it will be called is voted out by day?
What happens when priest blesses? Can it be blessed?


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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

^ I think they meant that if the VC/VB/VS gets voted out by day*, the MV bite becomes enraged, therefore is able to bite through any garlic/blessed and said person will be turned despite being garlic/blessed.

Edit: *If the VC/VB/VS dies anyway way, not just voted out



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PostPosted: Thu 11 May, 2017  Reply with quote

Ebilshrimp wrote:
I'll be using the Vampire bride, my thoughts for refining it are, maybe instead of the MV biting twice (which could actually end up in heavy vampire casualties), I'm thinking since he's enraged (empowered) his bite becomes immune. Which means blessed and garlic will not effect that night.

I saw that as the newer vamps V4 V5 or whatever wouldn't die through garlic/blessed. Not that they could turn target inspite of any protection.



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PostPosted: Fri 12 May, 2017  Reply with quote

I thought about it like this (referring to the role as "she"):

While the Bride is a villager:

- There's no chance she can be given garlic
- She can get blessed, which essentially ruins her chances of becoming a vampire, but doesn't end the game for her (what she does would probably depend on whether the villagers get blessing PMs, right?). Or, there are these options: a) Like any other vampire, blessing doesn't work on her; b) Blessing kills her, similarly to how a bite kills the priest (not giving the vampires an advantage)
- If she's lynched as a villager, it's game over for her but the vampires don't get any advantage
- If she doesn't get turned, but remains alive at the end of the game, she loses.

While the Bride is a vampire:

- At first, I thought the vampires would get an advantage only if the VB is lynched during the day, and not if she dies during the night as well, because it would be likely for her to die early on biting garlic/blessed targets, but by making her above the regular vampires, I think it would be ok if the effect gets triggered upon her death in any way.
- If the vampires hit a target with garlic, depending on how it's calculated, she moves up in the vamp seniority line even if she was just turned the night before, so let's say there are MV, VB, V1 and V2, (and not MV, V1, V2, VB) and half the vampires die, V1 and V2 would die before her.
- Similarly, if the vampires hit a blessed target, in a scenario like above V2 would die before VB.
- If a VB dies while a vampire, the vampires' next bite is empowered and ignores garlic/blessing. The Bride still loses because she's dead, but she's an asset to vampires.
- The Bride can win by surviving and winning as a vampire.

Does this sound too complicated for a game role*? :D



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PostPosted: Fri 12 May, 2017  Reply with quote

- If a VB dies while a vampire, the vampires' next bite is empowered and ignores garlic/blessing.

Ah, so if MV ends up alone after lost of VB s/he gets one free bite? And any villager alliance gets weakened/destroyed.



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PostPosted: Fri 12 May, 2017  Reply with quote

I think so, yes. That is, if the VB gets turned in the first place and doesn't die by that time. ^^


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PostPosted: Fri 12 May, 2017  Reply with quote

No necessarily alone, for instance if the VB is lynched then the MV also gets the free bite. By ignoring blessing/ garlic the target is still turned AND ALSO does not kill lesser vampires. So this basically means the villagers want to figure out the vampires but make sure to consider the VB cause if there are 4 vamps and you lynch the VB, you're gonna have an extra bad time.

This will be the test run either way, so if no vamps being killed proves too powerful we can nerf it for future events ^^



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PostPosted: Mon 15 May, 2017  Reply with quote

I forgot to comment on my experience with the Jester role in RG, so I will do it here:

I didn't like it at first, because I was supposed to die and that wouldn't make the game very long for me (especially after the long break). It was ok though since I managed to survive a couple of days.

Since I didn't know who the wolves were I felt very much like I was on the villagers side. Unfortunately it is much easier for the wolves to guess that I am the Jester than for the villagers (because they know who the real wolves are) so I felt bad that I couldn't get the wolves to lynch me.

I considered letting the alliance know that I was the Jester, so I could be used as a bait for wolves, but I considered it too risky (the chances of the wolves eating me at night were quite high).

Overall a fun but a bit lonely role.


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