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RL feels constantly like a dream.
PostPosted: Fri 24 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

After I started meditating daily, which was around half a year ago, I've had this constant feeling of not being fully awake. Its bothersome and a bit scary, and I haven't been able to get it off me.

When I look at something, say an item, I can focus on it and see teh details clearly and easily, but its like I'm not REALLY looking at it. Almost like I'm looking at a computer screen or that I'm wearing VR-goggles or something. Even if I try to really look at what I'm looking at, it doesn't seem to dissapear.

Ive had the same feeling after a night smoking hash, and then it tended to wear on me a week or so before wearing off. But I've quit smoking a long time ago and it wasn't like that before i started to meditate.

Im not really in a bad shape or eating badly either. Pretty much in a good shape.

I don't have any abstract or absurd thoughts or something during the day, just that constant feeling of not being fully awake.

Anyone who has a clue what it might be, or how to make it dissapear?


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PostPosted: Fri 24 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

I think I know what feeling you're describing. If I'm not mistaken, the feeling is known as detachment. Nothing feels real, hence you feel "detached" from the world around you... sound right?

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

Yes, I've had extreme cases of this sometimes,

where everything feels foggy and the world is swirling around me, this was sometimes more pronounced when I carried quartz crystals around me (the energy can raise you up high, so just like meditation, if you're not prepared, there are the dire consequences of detachment!!!)

Lately I've been feeling much better, I feel like this has been the results of mantras, and being able to connect with sources of divinity without losing detachment with the physical world, and having everything feel like a foggy dream. I hear onyx can be grounding.

Also, connecting with the earth with bare feet is an excellent way to feel more grounded to it once again. smile

In short, boy do I know what you're going through! But an excellent goal is to feel both more connected with the divine and to feel truly content with where you are on the physical plane. grin


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

xx521xx wrote:
I think I know what feeling you're describing. If I'm not mistaken, the feeling is known as detachment. Nothing feels real, hence you feel "detached" from the world around you... sound right?


It does. It might be a good expression for it. but its not like i think "wow this doesn't feel real" I only notice the feeling when i try to.


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

I know what your talking about. I get the same feeling of detachment when I'm doing simple things like feeding my dog or taking a walk. Yesterday I felt it when taking a ride. My husband was driving and I was looking at the road ahead of us, the trees, and the sky and I felt connected with everything but not in this reality, if that makes any sense.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

Since ive been... lets say 6, ive sorta felt like this too >.<.
It sort of feels... uhh... like im not concious but concious at the same time?? I havent tried meditation except for maybe 2 times, but i havent gotten deep into it. Im getting 8 hours of sleep, i think thats normal right?


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

lidybug wrote:
I know what your talking about. I get the same feeling of detachment when I'm doing simple things like feeding my dog or taking a walk. Yesterday I felt it when taking a ride. My husband was driving and I was looking at the road ahead of us, the trees, and the sky and I felt connected with everything but not in this reality, if that makes any sense.


Its kind of like that yes. The problem is that it started when i started to meditate, say the second meditation...


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

Another thing to note is that the feeling is stronger if ive slept a long time like today (saturday) I slept maybe 10-11 hours.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

Accept your reality. Resistance to change is one of the most fundamental qualities of human behavior. I suggest you just try to enjoy it. You've clearly going through some change. A change in perception is an indicator for a drastic change.

I think doing a bit of focal meditation will help you quite a bit.

Generally, just sit down relaxed, take some deep breaths, and look at something for as long as you wish, you will see more and more and your vision will open further . This is meant to make you aware of your new perception and the things it brought with it.

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

relV wrote:
Accept your reality. Resistance to change is one of the most fundamental qualities of human behavior. I suggest you just try to enjoy it. You've clearly going through some change. A change in perception is an indicator for a drastic change.

I think doing a bit of focal meditation will help you quite a bit.

Generally, just sit down relaxed, take some deep breaths, and look at something for as long as you wish, you will see more and more and your vision will open further . This is meant to make you aware of your new perception and the things it brought with it.

Hope this helps
Ariel


Hm. You know what, that sounds like a great idea! I'll definetly try that! thank you!
I'll let you know if it worked.


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

relV wrote:
Accept your reality. Resistance to change is one of the most fundamental qualities of human behavior. I suggest you just try to enjoy it. You've clearly going through some change. A change in perception is an indicator for a drastic change.

I think doing a bit of focal meditation will help you quite a bit.

Generally, just sit down relaxed, take some deep breaths, and look at something for as long as you wish, you will see more and more and your vision will open further . This is meant to make you aware of your new perception and the things it brought with it.

Hope this helps
Ariel


Ok so I tried doing this today. i sat than down in my meditation chair, took some deep breaths and then proceeded to stare at book that was standing in my bookshelf in front of me, more accurately at a logo on its spine. After a few seconds my vision became extremely trippy. Everything except for the logo i started that started to disort and become wavy. Sometimes at the edge of my field of view it became very fogy. I sat there for 15 minutes. It didn`t exactly work against my feeling of detachment though...


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

The key here is not to force your perception to change.

Obviously, following what you've experienced, it is safe to assume that if you want to change your perception back, quitting meditation might help you. But I doubt that's what you want to do, especially since you've experienced such a dramatic change. It might appear negative or counter productive to your life, but it's probably the exact opposite.

As I have already said, it's all about your resistance to change.

Imagine you were experiencing this kind of perception throughout your life . How would you feel if your perception switched back to the one you used to have (and are trying to get back). Things all feel bad or harmful to us when they're unfamiliar and obscure, that's why I think focal meditation might do you good, because it will make you more familiar with your new found perception.

Every being sees the world differently, actually sees the world differently. You are on your own path so treat yourself as the ultimate judge. Search for answers within yourself, always.

Feeling detached and those kind of things, especially since you mentioned it happening after you started meditating, is most probably linked to perceiving a greater extent of the reality, such as 'energy' . I will not be surprised if you became clairvoyant soon, actually, I won't be surprised if you are clairvoyant now and you're simply not aware of it causing you to feel this way.

Many people notice major changes when they start to meditate, because meditating is.. well, it's more about opening your eyes than closing them.


Steps of action:

1. Decide whether you want to pursue changing your perception or whether you want to resist and keep your old one. If any new perception is presenting itself, it's surely a wider one, otherwise you would've been exposed to it sooner. Make your choice.

2. If you choose to evolve, accept your perception and your path of learning to live with it. Make a commitment to love and accept yourself no matter what. Love and accept yourself whatever you experience.

3. Try to become familiar with it.
We are taught and become used to have a very dim awareness. Try to consciously be aware of yourself, of your feelings, your vision, your perception, your thoughts, everything you're going through. As well as focal meditation or anything you can think of. Awareness leads to answers.

Be aware that it might take you some time to become comfortable with your new perception, probably a lot less than you can imagine but still.. you've had a lot of time to get familiar with what you had so a perception jump like you have experienced from meditating might need some time ..

The road is always yours to walk.

We are being taught to go out and search the world for answers , only when we sit down after failing to find any answers, we begin to see that the things we were looking for were right inside of us, in plain sight, all along.


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

the black tourmaline is a very nice crystal to ground ,

it has a high high vibration, but works on pulling everything into being centered ,

if you wish to get one,


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

ya i get that when doing something like, washing clothes. going to someones house (while driving there)
idk. i think we are living but not really seeing what we are looking at. or not really living.


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2009  Reply with quote

Not to alarm you but I think what you're experiencing is called "derealization".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derealization

It can be triggered by a drug experience and last with the person long afterwards, sometimes requiring medication or therapy if it gets too difficult to live with.

I hope that helps.


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