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Vampirism45
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Problems entering a WILD from SP
PostPosted: Sun 12 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

I practice a variation of WILD that is very similar to inductions of OBEs. I basically relax heavily and then wait for my body to enter SP. After I'm completely paralyzed and all vibrations have stopped, I attempt to force my dream body out of my physical body. Almost everywhere it simply says to "imagine your dream hand seperating from your physical body and continue the seperation from there". This simply does not work. It feels like im stuck in my physical body. After about an hour, I give up and shake myself out of the SP. Any advice? whatsthat


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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

Perhaps you shouldn't wait that vibrations have stopped. The easier way to have a LD from SP is to "roll out of your bed". If you can't there is another technique which relies on the fact that the "paralyzed body" is not really paralyzed: it's very heavy, that's all, and you don't really have to "force your dream body out your physical body", cause your physical body is indeed already a dream body.

Hope these little advices can help you. BTW when you're in SP, you're not very far to a LD. Keep up the good work! :D


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Re: Problems entering a WILD from SP
PostPosted: Mon 13 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

Vampirism45 wrote:
I practice a variation of WILD that is very similar to inductions of OBEs. I basically relax heavily and then wait for my body to enter SP. After I'm completely paralyzed and all vibrations have stopped, I attempt to force my dream body out of my physical body. Almost everywhere it simply says to "imagine your dream hand seperating from your physical body and continue the seperation from there". This simply does not work. It feels like im stuck in my physical body. After about an hour, I give up and shake myself out of the SP. Any advice? whatsthat


Yes, exactly the same way im experiencing WILD! And i don't know how I can advance from that, cuz i don't exactly get lucid while i just laying in my bed all numb. Feels a bit likemy non physical body is ready to seperate, but somehow is still stuck in my real body, and that i need to do something fror it to sepereate..
But if i move conscoiusly wont i ruin the wild, by moving my physical body because i'm not completely seperated from it?? help!

I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one having this problem ^^ hehe


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

Are you sure you're in SP for a full hour? That shouldn't be even physically possible. SP doesn't last more than a few minutes at the most.

And yes, you should try when you feel the vibrations. You don't really need to feel full SP to do a WILD, but the vibrations give you a clue that you are on the right track.

There are many other ways to WILD other than rolling out of your body. My personal favorite is visualizing a dream scene that I want to enter, and keep the mental image/HI until it turns into a lucid dream. I do this when I feel very relaxed, usually even before I can feel the vibrations.


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

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My personal favorite is visualizing a dream scene that I want to enter, and keep the mental image/HI until it turns into a lucid dream. I do this when I feel very relaxed, usually even before I can feel the vibrations.


My method is very similar to this, but I always wait for vibrations. I haven't attempted it without them, but I'll give it a try.


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

If you look up Lucidology 101 on youtube you'll find some very helpful videos on how to get unstuck from ur physcial body- there's technique called teleporting OOBEs. You should check it out.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

well you shouldn't have to force anything. Once you relax and the vibrations eventually come, you have to go with them, not wait until they stop. What time are you practicing wild? The best time to is in the early morning, when you still feel groggy. Obviously this will take practice.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

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If you look up Lucidology 101 on youtube you'll find some very helpful videos on how to get unstuck from ur physcial body- there's technique called teleporting OOBEs. You should check it out.


I definitely recommend these videos. They are probably the only useful ones on youtube!


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

Once your experiencing vibrations, you should have no problem bringing any visualisations to life. That way, you won't have to give your body a second thought. Alternatively, you could try to think more about moving your mind rather than your arm. Try rocking it from side to side, or up and down. Whatever produces a sensation for you. Then focus on making the sensation as strong as possible until you swing your mind outside of your body. I always used to imaging my ethereal body being pulled or sucked out through my toes. After the sensation got strong enough, I would slip out into my dream. The sensation was like slipping on a banana smile

Good luck!


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

Now that I've had my first two OBEs, I realize what the problem was. Previously, I had only been entering partial SP, which is not adequate enough to OBE from.


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

I seem to have this problem too. I get into SP, and that's as far as i can ever get. I can lay there for as long as i want, but eventually i just get antsy or an itch or something that makes me move.

When i do a WILD it feels like my mind is still wide awake. is it supposed to feel like this?


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

That is the whole point with WILD, your mind SHOULD be awake, but not "too" awake. Maybe that was what you meant, in that case im sorry tounge1

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

well im not sure. Maybe i am not really entering SP though, My body feels very heavy, and hard to move, but if i want to move i still can. is this SP?

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

Smeester wrote:
well im not sure. Maybe i am not really entering SP though, My body feels very heavy, and hard to move, but if i want to move i still can. is this SP?


It's called Sleep Paralysis because it really is Paralysis- You aren't able to move AT ALL. Your body getting heavy isn't SP, that's just your body relaxing or whatever. Sleep Paralysis occurs at REM sleep, so basically for it to kick in you will need to do it after waking up (When you're in a REM stage).

People often mistake the heaviness for Sleep Paralysis, and therefor wonder why WILD isn't working for them.


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug, 2009  Reply with quote

True, but still, it could be a different sensation for everyone? I mean, some people might experience SP different from others? smile Me for example get the feeling of what I can best describe as "being tightly wrapped in warm plastic", that for me is "SP" allthough I cant really prove that it is the real deal since I have never succeeded with WILD. But I can always make myself move if I want to, thats the thing, allthough it is hard since my whole body feels like its made out of stone. meh

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