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Been reluctant to make this due to laziness but I really think this can be helpful .
Transformation has always been my specialty. I've been transforming constantly in LD's since my childhood even before I learned to fly. It's time to share some useful techniques!

First, the basics.

Getting Used to Transformation

Since transformation isn't exactly possible in real life, a lot of people have difficulty with it. Flying can at least be associated with swimming whereas transformation and be associated with next to nothing, so those of you who have difficulty getting the real life restrictions out of your dreams will benefit from these exercises.

Changing your Clothes

Because we change our clothing in waking life, there's nothing too unusual about this. Well, besides eliminating the actual process of changing your clothes.

Beginners: Pretty simple. Look at the sky then look down at yourself. Kind of like looking at your hands in a LD. Expect them to be different when you look back. If you can achieve this then try it again only this time imagine more specific clothing.

Advanced: Find a mirror or if mirrors don't work in your dreams, just look down at yourself. Now try and imagine your clothes changing before your eyes. Practicing your visualization skills in waking life can be helpful for this. The clearer you can imagine it, the easier it will be. Start with color and then move on to changing the actual types of clothing on yourself.

It's probably useful to be able to achieve the advanced exercise for this as it can aid you in things like growing fur, scales, or feathers later on.

Sensation

A lot of transformations involve adding extra limbs. For this, it can be extremely difficult for some people to imagine what that's like, and there's not really much to compare it to. The only thing I can think of is stretching.

Start with your hands. Look at them. It's a RC, right? If you're lucky, you'll already have an extra finger. That's great! Now feel that extra finger and then all your others. Move them. Carefully take in what it's like to have more than five fingers. If you can imagine it, you can recreate it!
If you weren't one of the lucky ones, you'll have to do a bit more work. First you have to get the sensation of stretching or pulling in your head. Take one of your fingers and pull at it. Imagine it getting longer and really focus on the feeling of stretching. After you've been able to stretch the size of your fingers, you can shake them back to normal (or not tounge2) for the next step.
Take the side of your hand and imagine that feeling of stretching and pulling. You don't have to look at it as you do this. You should now have an extra finger! Now carefully feel what it's like to have an extra limb. This is so that you will be able to recreate that feeling after!

For the "lucky ones" that just had to do a double-take, this can be handy for creating other limbs. Unfortunately there's a tendency for limbs that you just made appear and not grow to not have very good sensation. I mean, you'll probably be able to see them, but you won't feel them much. I'd advice you to practice growing them out. Start small and work up.

This is the stepping stone for growing things like tails, wings, etc.

Changing Size:

Getting Small:


Beginners: Find something to stand beside Ex. a chair, desk, etc. I find tables work the best. Now bend down very slowly beside said object. Make sure to watch the object the entire time. Now as your bending down, watch the object get higher and higher even when you've bent down as far as you can go, imagine it getting higher and higher still until you've reached your desired size. Now here's the tricky part. Slowly stand up again. Don't come up too fast as this can jerk you back up into your original height. The object should now be taller than you. Do not expect that it won't be!
Sometimes in the shrinking process, it's helpful to go smaller than intended just incase some of your size returns.

Advanced: Shut your eyes and when you open them again, look up. Expect everything to be taller than you. You can also trying teleporting (if that's not too difficult) and appearing in a location where everything is bigger to get around actually shrinking yourself.

Expert: Simply imagine yourself being compressed.

Getting Big:

Beginners: Like getting smaller, stand next to an object. Something that is preferably bigger than you. For this I find trees work best. Plant your feet firmly into the ground, grab the object and pull yourself up while still keeping your feet on the ground. Imagine the sensation of stretching if you're not already feeling it. Now transfer this sensation in all directions so that your body grows evenly. Now let go of the object when you've reached your desired size.

Advanced: Shut your eyes and when you open them again, look down. You should be taller. Or, once again, teleport to a location where you are bigger than everything.

Expert: Imagine yourself being stretched.

To be able to achieve the Expert techniques in both cases, it's important to focus to the sensation of shrinking or growing so that you'll eventually be able to recreate it without the use of an object.

Creating Extra Limbs

This is essential if you wanna transform into things that have a little more than a human anatomy.

Creating Wings

Now this depends on what kinds of wings you want. I have a preference for bat wings as it's my favorite animal. You will need the skill of being able to induce the stretching feeling discussed earlier and the ability of being able to change you appearance (same thing as changing your clothes) if you need something like feathers. They may happen naturally in the transformation process though.
First, tense your back and really feel your shoulder blades. Now induce the stretching feeling to those areas. Feel the wings forming on your back. Yep, that's really all there is to it.
Now, you may run into the issue of not being able feel your wings after this despite the fact you made them grow. To correct this, imagine that your arms are where your wings are. You have to just move the control from your arms to your wings. Then switch control back to your arms. If you still can't feel your wings, continue to do this until you can... or not if you don't consider sensation a big deal.

If you want your wings to be where your arms are (say you were transforming into a bird or a bat), that's even easier. For birds it'd just be a matter of visualization skills. You would hold your arms out straight and keep your fingers close together. You would then imagine the feathers spreading from your arms and voila! For bats, keeps your arms close to your body and imagine your fingers stretching. Now stretch your arms out and fingers apart but imagine a resistance. This should be the newly formed skin holding everything together. Now enjoy your bat wings.

(will add more examples after)

Alternate Methods to Achieve Transformation

Using the above methods I feel will ultimately lead to the best control. They focus a lot on actually feeling the transformation. That, of course, is what a lot of lucid dreamers strive to experience in transformations. What's it actually like to be such-and-such animal? They are also stepping stones to more unimaginable transformations such as transforming into inanimate objects or even elements (wind, fire, water, etc) because the process practices control and the feeling of the transformation.
These are techniques that may work better for some but may not work on your control and may or may not suffer in sensation.

  • Cloak yourself: Methods include throwing a blanket on yourself and taking it off to reveal your desired form, teleport into a location where you appear as your desired form, etc. Just find something to cover your body and when you uncover it, you are transformed.
  • Costume: Find or create a costume of your desired transformation, put it on and you will become the costume. You can also try putting on a magic mask.
  • Magic/substance: Have something else induce the transformation. This can be anything from a transformation pill or serum, a magic wand, and sorcerer casting a spell on you, or a werewolf or vampire biting you so that you become a werewolf or vampire.
  • Role exchange/possession: Find a DC with your desired form and switch roles with them. If you cannot do this, go up behind them and walk through them so that you are now controlling their body.


Feel free to suggest more.

Stabilizing

There is a tendency in dreams for things to switch back. Here's what you can do to fix that:

  • Transform again using your desired method. Might be tedious for some.
  • Take a pill or serum that will stabilize the transformation. Kind of like the Lucid Pill that's used to stabilize the dream.
  • Believe that nothing went wrong
    Those who know me by now know I'm really big on the willpower thing. It's your dream, you're in control. End of story. Now have that mentality with your transformations! If something has changed in your appearance or gone wrong, simply believe that everything is alright. Roll with it and your appearance will correct itself.


Still more stuff to add. Will write more later.




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PostPosted: Mon 14 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Oh, yes. You finally did it. This will be very useful for my LD's in the future. The exception, being, of course, that I also continuously search for you so that you can give me personal instruction.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Ill try that in my next LD. Ive always wanted to transform!

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Wow, this post is amazing!
I am a French LD4all reader and I was wondering if you would agree if I translate it into my mother tongue (in the French forum, of course). It could be very helpful, we recently had a conversation about it. My English looks pretty accurate like that, but I easily can translate it into a good French wink
Anyway, I will be glad to see what's next!

P.S.:Sorry for not sending you a PM, it's still disabled for me...


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

BkM- wrote:
Wow, this post is amazing!
I am a French LD4all reader and I was wondering if you would agree if I translate it into my mother tongue (in the French forum, of course). It could be very helpful, we recently had a conversation about it. My English looks pretty accurate like that, but I easily can translate it into a good French wink

Oh, for the French LD4all? That would be great. The more people this can help, the better. siiw


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Awesome Wyvern! smile I've always been increadibly curious to see if it's actually possible to feel body parts we don't have IWL (or don't have anything to compare) like tails or wings. Now I know! :D

I'll come back here when I'm ready to practice my transformations. I'm trying to have longer LD's first shy2 Hope that doesn't take too long...


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

I've "practiced" for about 3 years now, with no major success. neutral Of course, if I hadn't gotten advice from Wyvern, I probably would have had no success at all.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

http://www.ld4all.com/fr/forum/viewtopic.php?p=31521# 31521

I'm done! Thank you very much Wyvern.


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Hooray! I'm glad you made this topic.

I recently did the tail and wings things mattias mentioned.. it's awesome and very surprising that you can actually feel these things... ^^ I'm gonna have to start practising to get better at it though, as though the tail was really stable... the wings did take a few times to get it right.


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Im' curious though not that this thread isn't great! but how about transforming into... other things? like clouds? the ocean, the wind, a donut? grin Anyone done that? I think I recall once reading a guy transforming into a computer, all of this sounds like fun

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Transforming is what I've always wanted to do most in a lucid dream, only if I could get them more often. Thanks Wyvern for posting this, it should help me as soon as I could get a grasp on how to have thorough and regular lucid dreams.

P.S. I also would like to explore a past life or access memories with lucid dreams, but physically transforming from human to another creature particularly a dragon, the very idea of it is exhilerating.



Current LD goal(s): Become a dragon, explore my mind's universes, meet my Spirit Guide
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

mattias... wrote:
Im' curious though not that this thread isn't great! but how about transforming into... other things? like clouds? the ocean, the wind, a donut? grin Anyone done that? I think I recall once reading a guy transforming into a computer, all of this sounds like fun


That's definitely more advanced stuff. I've once transformed into mist and the experience was indescribable. Maybe for that type of stuff you'd practice in steps. Example: learn to change your clothes - change your appearance - grow extra parts - shapeshift - shapeshift into an object (which involves the skill of losing limbs)- then turning into another substance altogether.
Probably best to master the stuff before. The more you transform, the easier it gets. You get used to the feeling of transformation and can apply it in more advanced ways.


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

wow, fantastic. ^^

Yeah, I was just wondering. Now I'll throw that idea in the big pile of cool advanced stuff to do when I'm ready wink

I'm planning to try and change clothes or even play around with the idea of growing a tail in one of my next LD's.


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

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Creating Extra Limbs

This is essential if you wanna transform into things that have a little more than a human anatomy.

Creating Wings

Now this depends on what kinds of wings you want. I have a preference for bat wings as it's my favorite animal. You will need the skill of being able to induce the stretching feeling discussed earlier and the ability of being able to change you appearance (same thing as changing your clothes) if you need something like feathers. They may happen naturally in the transformation process though.
First, tense your back and really feel your shoulder blades. Now induce the stretching feeling to those areas. Feel the wings forming on your back. Yep, that's really all there is to it.
Now, you may run into the issue of not being able feel your wings after this despite the fact you made them grow. To correct this, imagine that your arms are where your wings are. You have to just move the control from your arms to your wings. Then switch control back to your arms. If you still can't feel your wings, continue to do this until you can... or not if you don't consider sensation a big deal.

If you want your wings to be where your arms are (say you were transforming into a bird or a bat), that's even easier. For birds it'd just be a matter of visualization skills. You would hold your arms out straight and keep your fingers close together. You would then imagine the feathers spreading from your arms and voila! For bats, keeps your arms close to your body and imagine your fingers stretching. Now stretch your arms out and fingers apart but imagine a resistance. This should be the newly formed skin holding everything together. Now enjoy your bat wings.

(will add more examples after)

Alternate Methods to Achieve Transformation

Using the above methods I feel will ultimately lead to the best control. They focus a lot on actually feeling the transformation. That, of course, is what a lot of lucid dreamers strive to experience in transformations. What's it actually like to be such-and-such animal? They are also stepping stones to more unimaginable transformations such as transforming into inanimate objects or even elements (wind, fire, water, etc) because the process practices control and the feeling of the transformation.
These are techniques that may work better for some but may not work on your control and may or may not suffer in sensation.

  • Cloak yourself: Methods include throwing a blanket on yourself and taking it off to reveal your desired form, teleport into a location where you appear as your desired form, etc. Just find something to cover your body and when you uncover it, you are transformed.
  • Costume: Find or create a costume of your desired transformation, put it on and you will become the costume. You can also try putting on a magic mask.
  • Magic/substance: Have something else induce the transformation. This can be anything from a transformation pill or serum, a magic wand, and sorcerer casting a spell on you, or a werewolf or vampire biting you so that you become a werewolf or vampire.
  • Role exchange/possession: Find a DC with your desired form and switch roles with them. If you cannot do this, go up behind them and walk through them so that you are now controlling their body.


Feel free to suggest more.

Stabilizing

There is a tendency in dreams for things to switch back. Here's what you can do to fix that:

  • Transform again using your desired method. Might be tedious for some.
  • Take a pill or serum that will stabilize the transformation. Kind of like the Lucid Pill that's used to stabilize the dream.
  • Believe that nothing went wrong
    Those who know me by now know I'm really big on the willpower thing. It's your dream, you're in control. End of story. Now have that mentality with your transformations! If something has changed in your appearance or gone wrong, simply believe that everything is alright. Roll with it and your appearance will correct itself.


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Sep, 2009  Reply with quote

Still more helpful. Thanks, Wyv!

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