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The BIG sleep paralysis and old hag topic Part V

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dB_FTS
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb, 2012  Reply with quote

RaveTheDayAway wrote:
We don't know much about SP. Some people believe it's a kind of dream state, others claim that it's the work of demons, who want us to astral project to steal our soul (i'm simply shaking in my boots -_-) I believe it's our mind caught in REM sleep and, if lucidity has been achieved, overstimulating our body thinking we're still in a dream state. Regardless of what is believed, it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. It is indeed true that calling upon the name of Jesus Christ will bring us our of SP. it is also true that closing your eyes, breathing in through your nose and out through your mouth will loosen you from this paralysis. It's because both of these work that it's hard determining just what SP is(although there is the possibility that these are simply placebos and it's more of the mindset that free's you) regardless, i think anyone who experiences this should keep track of what they see feel and hear, what they dreamt of before it happened, and what their emotional state was before they fell asleep.


We know mostly everything about SP and here's the article!



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PostPosted: Thu 29 Mar, 2012  Reply with quote

I don't get why everyone tries to avoid SP during WILD. When you get it, you can enter a very vivid lucid dream quite easily.

Just today after a refreshing afternoon nap, I got SP. I wasn't scared though, I knew what was happening. For 20-30 minutes, I tried "exiting" my body, that is leaving my physical body with my dream body to start a lucid dream, but I couldn't no matter how hard I tried. I sinking through my bed, floating out of my body, rolling over, and spinning around.

The experience really depends on what you expect of it. I have a bit of experience with it, and as soon as I discovered what it was and the science behind it, I stopped being afraid of it.



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PostPosted: Sun 06 May, 2012  Reply with quote

I've tried getting SP four times by laying down and staying still, trying to use it in WILD. Two times I gave up because I wanted to sleep. The other two weren't actual successes, but something still.
My first try was the best. I got vibrations on my legs and hands, though it was something closer to cramping, really. But then I probably got too excited because I felt pressure on my chest, as if someone was pushing it and started breathing too heavily. The vibrations stopped, too. I think I was quite close to LD, if I could've just rolled over to the dream I would've done it.
Second try was lamer, all I got was heavy numbness all over my body. It didn't make progress for a while so I decided to go to sleep.
That's all I've got, I'll try it again tonight.


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PostPosted: Wed 09 May, 2012  Reply with quote

I have a question about SP, a hopefully simple one...is SP like having LDs, where you can want something to happen and it will? For instance, if I was hallucinating during SP, and there was something scary coming towards me, if I wanted it enough and kept thinking about it, could I "hallucinate" something happening to the monster, like suddenly exploding or turning it into something else?


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PostPosted: Wed 09 May, 2012  Reply with quote

LucidBacon wrote:
I have a question about SP, a hopefully simple one...is SP like having LDs, where you can want something to happen and it will? For instance, if I was hallucinating during SP, and there was something scary coming towards me, if I wanted it enough and kept thinking about it, could I "hallucinate" something happening to the monster, like suddenly exploding or turning it into something else?


You were interacting with HH, usually that breaks the hypnagogic state but some dreamers can interact with them easily but keep in mind that your goal is not SP, it's lucid dream so maybe is better to passively observe HH, but if you prefer that way and if it's working for you then do it by the all means! ^^

EDIT:

I just came across this song from U.N.K.L.E - Rabbit In Your Headlights

This lyrics caught my attention and I relate it to SP:

"If you're frightened of dyin' and you're holding on...
You'll see devils tearing your life away.
But...if you've made your peace,
Then the devils are really angels
Freeing you from the earth.....from the earth....from the earth"

That's is very much true for SP too!



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PostPosted: Sun 11 Nov, 2012  Reply with quote

haha i remember when i first was trying to WILD and i got SP and HI and i thought i was going to get lost from my body haha


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012  Reply with quote

I woke up into sp the other day.
I didn't realise this at first and it caught me of gaurd, I panicked.
my vission was shaking and a black creature with glowing read eyes appeared next to me. Then I actually realised I was in SP (Iwasn't clear minded). Anyways the creature was coming towards me fast, but I thought to myself: "I don't have time for this, I should try to ld now." I focussed on ld'ing and stopped worrying about the creature completely, and guess what...
It vanished ^^



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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar, 2013  Reply with quote

I've been having a LOT of SP episodes lately. This is the most recent one before I stopped trying to wake myself up from them:

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Apr, 2013  Reply with quote

So last night I woke up from a dream and opened my yes and there was someone standing over my bed with a Polaroid camera looking like he/she was taking a photo of me.

I groaned and turned away at least in my mind's eye. I thought to myself, "go away" and I think I attempted to roll over to try and get into a lucid dream.

Unfortunately I felt an extreme pressure on my chest (despite me not lying on my back), and a distinct sense of fear.

When I woke up the same image of a figure with a Polaroid camera was seen in some of the furniture in my room - except perhaps at a different angle.


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PostPosted: Fri 30 May, 2014  Reply with quote

My first and only experience with the hag herself was in the summer of 2008.

I was standing on the edge of a cliff, staring down into the abyss. Behind me, there were two tall, almost elfish figures. I glanced to the horizon and saw a creature approaching me. She was white, from her skin, to her clothes, to her hair, everything was white except for her black, empty, glassy eyes. I thought that she was the most beautiful creature I ever saw, as she flied towards me. She stopped just inches from my face, and then turned into the most hideous monster one can imagine. Her face wrinkled and twisted, she had long fangs, and her expression was angry, evil.

She attacked me, putting her hand right through my chest, squeezing the heart. I screamed in pain, trying to defend myself, when I had what I now think is a false awakening, but I cannot be sure. I didn't see her, but I felt her jumping on my chest, and felt my hands move to defend myself. Then she pulled me back into the dream, and tried to throw me off the cliff. The two figures from before were betting on whether I'll fall or climb back up, and they told me that if I fell, I would never wake up again.

I managed to climb up with just my willpower, and then I woke up for real, paralysed and with chest pain. The weirdest thing is, that when I met my love, we talked casually about dreams and we realized that we dreamt the same hag, probably even at the same time, with the cliff and those two people, everything was the same, and that was way before we even met.

~ Other than that, I don't experience awareness during sleep paralysis, only the hallucinations and they can get extremely scary or extremely funny (for the people who observe me). My first hallucination upon waking was a giant wasp that was just hanging around my room. After that there were spiders, snakes, or random fuzzy shapes. When I moved to my boyfriend's house, they got worse. Little children, a doctor, a hanged woman, a bloody hand, black creatures with red eyes, and others. The funnies for my boyfriend was when I woke up, got up, while watching the three white monkeys sitting on my chair, and asked him: What kind of monkeys are these? :D

Anyways, I'm trying to realize, upon waking, that what I see is a hallucination, because when I scream, I scare the whole house. It's difficult. I manage to realize that I'm dreaming when the hallucinations are simple, but when I see a human standing over me... well. I even wanted to pay a visit to a psychologist, but if I can learn to incorporate those into lucid dreams, then maybe there will be no more reason to fear them.

I noticed this, though:

- When I sleep on my back, I always have nightmares and hallucinations
- When I sleep on my side turned to the wall, I'm mostly safe. The only thing that can happen is seeing small, fuzzy or triangular shapes.
- When I sleep turned to the other side of the room, there's enough room for big hallucinations. That's the worst.


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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct, 2014  Reply with quote

Is it normal that after exiting SP, I can re enter it straight away by lying down again? After exiting I stay awake for around 10 secs.

I could even feel myself enetering it on my way to lying down last week, trying to speak with my mouth locked into place.


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