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PostPosted: Sat 07 May, 2011  Reply with quote

I have a copy of it and I would like to read it smile So I think we have decided? Or does anyone disagree?

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Apparently not.

I'm currently at chapter 8, part (or whatever it is called) 6; and I find the novel pretty engaging. In fact, I'm trying to keep my reading speed down a bit so I can contemplate it at times.

The one detail that really draws my attention is the words being connected to the top of the page by lines at the title page and chapter beginnings.
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One thing that pushed me away from the book a bit was...
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Other than those, the fact that...
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One other detail that aided in me getting absorbed in the novel is that...
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Also, I keep a little notepad with me when I'm reading because I feel like I'm in a hunt for sentences that should be written down. I have a few that really do get to me, be it very basic sentences that induce haunty feelings or paragraphs that explain Ishmael's perspective.

Anyway, that's generally my thoughts at this point.


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PostPosted: Wed 11 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Found Ismael* at the library today so I'll join too I have only read chapter one so far though.
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*Yes Ismael without an h due to it being a swedish translation



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PostPosted: Thu 12 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Chapter one
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Ishmael, I am reading the english version smile


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PostPosted: Sat 14 May, 2011  Reply with quote

I have read untill chapter 8 now.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Chapter 2

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PostPosted: Mon 16 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Magnus:
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(my thoughts in general about the lines now)
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Thatís where I stopped reading. I have around 50 pages or something left, which will probably not take much. After that Iím planning to skim the book once more to write its theses down so I can consider them all with the whole knowledge of the novel.

Most important thing I learned from Ishmael during my last reading session:
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PostPosted: Mon 16 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Ahh Thanks Puce

Chapter 3
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Hmm, I don't know why but I've gotten a bit of a dislike for the student after I've read 8 chapters now, I liked him in the beginning but I don't like him so much anymore, don't know why right now.


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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2011  Reply with quote

I finished Ishmael.
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After you all have finished it we can open discussion smile


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PostPosted: Sat 21 May, 2011  Reply with quote

I have finished the book now too smile

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011  Reply with quote

I am done with the book as well, and right now around chapter 6 at skimming it again for the arguments and interesting points.

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Going through the book once more to remember what I thought at the time or to consider those points again left me with the following thoughts, questions and Ishmael's teachings:

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(Chapter 1, Part 4)
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(Chapter 1, Part 6)
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(Chapter 1, Part 7)
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(Chapter 2, Part 3)
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(Chapter 2, Part 6)
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(Chapter 3, Part 2)
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(Chapter 4, Part 1)
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(Chapter 4, Part 5)
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(Chapter 5, part 1)
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(Chapter 5, Part 2)
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(Chapter 5, Part 3)
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(Chapter 5, Part 4)
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(Chapter 5, Part 5)
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Then comes chapter 6, which I haven't fully gone over yet. Therefore I stop now.


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PostPosted: Thu 26 May, 2011  Reply with quote

Good work Puce smile

You have analysized quite a piece of the book already. I want to start a discussion about the general ideas of the author.

Is he right?


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011  Reply with quote

Apparently we all lost interest... And I didn't continue the analysing because it was too tedious of a task.

Ansie wrote:
Is he right?


Personally I was agreeing with him a lot of times while reading. Yet I can name a big factual error of the author from the top of my head at the moment, which changed all my opinion.

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What's bothering me is how the author used the all-confident tone he used throughout the book at the said point as well. I don't really trust the author and anything he has written. I can't go ahead and check everything he says in the book to see if they're true and false, yet I can't believe them without checking either.

So all in all, it was a good read for me, but it may have been as true as a fantasy novel.


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