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Archery13157
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My Powerful Alternative to Reality Checking
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I've been thinking, researching and theorizing about Dreaming, Lucid Dreaming, the conscious mind, and the subconscious mind when I came across all kinds of different possibilities for becoming lucid of which I am yet to test almost all of them. As I came across these possibilities, something struck me as odd; the surprisingly simple 'alternative' to reality checking of which I think may be one of the easiest possible ways to become Lucid if not the easiest...

What struck me as odd was the fact that this was so unheard of, there was nothing i could find in all my research, it was still unheard of. I wondered if I was the first one to think of this idea and I wondered if it was just common sense that everyone knew... It completely defeats the purpose of Reality Checking and is far, far more simple as well as I'm sure it induces far more Lucid Dreams than Reality Checking does.

This technique I have not tested yet because I know of its power. It has the potential, if used enough, to convince you that you are dreaming 100% of the time, dreaming or not. This is unlikely to happen, but it may, depending on the person.

I call the technique the TILD technique (Thought Induced Lucid Dream.) Once you have stored the habit of reality checking in your subconscious mind and you find yourself reality checking in your dreams, replace reality checking with telling yourself "I'm in a dream," (instead of asking yourself if you're dreaming.)

My theory of this is that it takes out the balance between knowing whether you are awake or asleep (it does the same in dreams, so unlike reality checking, there are no "failed reality checks," and any time you find yourself preforming this technique in a dream, you become lucid every time if you preform it right in real life,) that reality checking holds and checks. Like reality checking, this habit will cross over into your dreams and you will find yourself repeating "I'm in a dream," in your dreams and you will become lucid



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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Have you done this?


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

dreamosis wrote:
Have you done this?

Yes, sort of. I made an attempt but I stopped when I suddenly thought, "Wait, what if I'm actually dreaming?" I mean the subconscious can replicate things perfectly in dreams, (such as emotion, physical pain, etc..,) I had a lucid dream that night, but I decided not to test it myself... well, at least not yet, but l might try again sometime.



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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Can you explain how this works around the notion of FLD? It seems like a way to get caught in this trap fairly easily. You also want to make sure that your reality checks work in one direction only if at all possible -- that is, they work in dreams and don't have much support in reality. If I stop in reality and think "This is a dream" and something out of place happens around me, that may back up my erroneous thought.


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Well this is actually a form of a reality check, but I won't get into too much detail on why tounge2.

But yes, this technique can work. In fact, a few dreamers here have gotten to that point. The way it's been described to me was a sudden realization that there is conceivably no difference between the way a dream and RL feel. This is actually the essence of Lucid Living (LL) that most people, including myself, miss. Now, the way these people got there was through working on their overall awareness. You're on the right track, but keep going ^^



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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Hi Archery,

Your idea sounds interesting, and your enthousiasm tickles my imagination, but I don't quite understand what the differences are between your TILD and the RC's we do with MILD?


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Actually, this is a common practice in the East. Those who do dreamwork in eastern religious traditions such as Dzogchen have a way of thinking which in essence is that "This is a dream" in waking life. There is a great philosophical discourse on this topic that I shall not get into because I would spend the next three days and nights typing it out. But it's kind of like that childrens song "Row Row Row your boat". Remember the end? "Life is but a dream!"

But, that you came to the conclusion on your own is impressive! Keep up your critical thinking, and may you have the best of luck in your lucid ventures.



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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Saying "This is a dream" about fifty times a day greatly adds to the possibility of becoming lucid at night.

I didn't draw the conclusions myself when I did this kind of self-suggestion a week ago but now that I think of it, I have had two LD-s in quite a short timespan, only six days. And I have been saying to myself the words "Of course it is a dream" when awake.

The last time I had an LD was yesterday at 2.20 am and I didn't do any RC-s to become lucid or confirm that it was a dream. I was just standing beside my bed and immediately knew it was a dream. It was the longest LD I have ever had.

So I would definitely suggest saying "This is a dream" instead of asking "Is this a dream?" The former has a much deeper quality than the latter and evokes more thought in me. When I say "This is a dream" IWL, I always feel a weird sensation of my consciousness being stretched a bit, widened in some sense.



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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

When I'm doing WILd and see vivid HI, I imagine myself doing a reality check in front of or in it. This is for in case I fall asleep, It will be sort of like a WILD.


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Rhewin wrote:
Well this is actually a form of a reality check, but I won't get into too much detail on why tounge2.

But yes, this technique can work. In fact, a few dreamers here have gotten to that point. The way it's been described to me was a sudden realization that there is conceivably no difference between the way a dream and RL feel. This is actually the essence of Lucid Living (LL) that most people, including myself, miss. Now, the way these people got there was through working on their overall awareness. You're on the right track, but keep going ^^


oh haha that makes sense thanks for clearing that up for me smile



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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Archery, you have stumbled upon quite a profound realization, and for that you ought to be proud of yourself. If only I had this kind of insight in my daily activities perhaps my life would be more rich. I, however, rely greatly on literature to pry my mind open. It is a weakness of mine, I admit. I have little capacity for original thought, but, thank goodness we have the ability to write down our thoughts, for I have no need of original thought as long as there are others out there, like yourself, who will do it for me smile.


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

Cosmocrator wrote:
Archery, you have stumbled upon quite a profound realization, and for that you ought to be proud of yourself. If only I had this kind of insight in my daily activities perhaps my life would be more rich. I, however, rely greatly on literature to pry my mind open. It is a weakness of mine, I admit. I have little capacity for original thought, but, thank goodness we have the ability to write down our thoughts, for I have no need of original thought as long as there are others out there, like yourself, who will do it for me smile.


thank you smile



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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

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rKangas: Saying "This is a dream" about fifty times a day greatly adds to the possibility of becoming lucid at night.


Man, that is one profound statement. It reminds me of what is called "All Day Awareness (ADA)" which follows the same basic idea.


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

MasterControl wrote:
Man, that is one profound statement. It reminds me of what is called "All Day Awareness (ADA)" which follows the same basic idea.


The good thing is that it works but the bad thing for at least me is that it doesn't work, say, three days in a row. In the first or second night I might get an LD but after the third the awareness loses it's freshness and deepness.

The time I had an LD with ADA was when I was really pissed off about the existence of me as a person. I have this idea that the Universe shouldn't actually exist and even if it does, it shouldn't contain me. This gave me inspiration to question reality the whole day.

I had an LD, yes, but the energy that it took the day before was a bit too much. The awareness wore off and I may be able to use ADA maybe a week or two from now, I don't know.



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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun, 2012  Reply with quote

What about this technique? Similar to ADA but less stressful (I can't concentrate on multiple things at once, it's really hard and can't do it for minutes, hours atc.)

SAT - Sporadic Awareness Technique / A DILD Variation



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