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PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

I have that too. You just know you're dreaming. I don't know how you should call it actually...
But I shouldn't call it half WILD, cause WILD is about that you fall asleep consciously and have a LD because you enter a dream while you're stil consciously...WILD without falling consiously asleep I wouldn't call WILD or half WILD, because falling asleep consiously is were WILD is about...


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

So, what should it be called, then? Hmmm. It has to do with visualizing, and I figure it's not a WILD at all (Thanks for moving my last post to the right place, btw). But I visualize the scene and fall asleep, and have a dream with complete knowledge without a reality check.

It's very weird indeed! But I'm not complaining. smile


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

While practising WILD, some people lose consciousness during a few seconds, then they find themselves in a dream. Some of them have to perform a RC to realize it, some haven't. If you lose consciousness for just a few seconds (though it's hard to estimate how much time you spend in an unconscious state wink), this kind of half-WILD can be still considered as a WILD.

I think what you practice is VILD, even if you don't have to perform a RC in order to realize you're dreaming. VILD is an hybrid technique, as you can use it in order to have WILD's or DILD's.


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

While performing VILD, do you imagine yourself doing the reality check, like, imagine actually covering one eye and such? Or just say your going to do the reality check?

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

You imagine that you perform the reality check and it works.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

If I want to fall asleep fast I usually imagine something so in a way I almost do VILD. The past 2 months I've been doing this pretty much every night since I'm now working during the days and I need to sleep enough.

I've noticed that if I'm not too tired and I do this, other things pop into my mind and distract me cry I do realise that whatever popped into my mind isn't what I was thinking about and I go back to whatever I was thinking on before. But same thing happens after a while and this keeps up until I fall alseep.

Just needed to say that ^^


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

JaRoD wrote:
other things pop into my mind and distract me cry I do realise that whatever popped into my mind isn't what I was thinking about and I go back to whatever I was thinking on before. But same thing happens after a while and this keeps up until I fall alseep.

VILD is my favourite technique but i often have the same problem with controlling thoughts.


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov, 2005  Reply with quote

Yeah, I lose focus very fast with VILD too and how tired I am doesn't seem to make a difference. If I'm really sleepy I'll imagine the scene once or twice, then fall asleep while thinking of other things (and of course not realize that I am thinking about other things or realize that I'm falling asleep). Hmm it's probably just lack of experience... At least I hope so lol otherwise that would mean I'm totally hopeless.

Anyone have any ideas on how to keep your thoughts only on the scene? I'd do the "put the thought up on a cloud" thing, but most of the time I don't even realize that I'm thinking other thoughts!

VILD for some reason is more appealing to me than any other technique though, so I guess I'll keep trying. smile

Dream on. // Olesia


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov, 2005  Reply with quote

I want to try the VILD this night, and some other too. But i created my own dream situation, its easier for me. Im in my room, alone. Nobody. (i often have problems with people while visualizng). The room looks just like that one IRL. On the bed i see my precious guitar. I sit down and try to play the "My Spirit Lives On" solo (manowar fans should know how hard it is smile as i play only for 3 months, its impossible to play it for me). I play the whole solo, and say "damn, this has to be a dream!" and then make a RC.

Wish me luck droom


edit:
well, i waked up few times in the night, after few times i coundt focus on my dream scene. Din't succed ;/


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Nov, 2005  Reply with quote

It's a little peculiar that for a technique which shows so much promise, and has recieved so much praise - only two people (Wolf and somebody else) have reported a single instance each of a successfull VILD.
I would really like for this technique to be successfull. I'm currently practicing VILD with my WBTB (2 days so far) and while I have definitely had some success with the incubation of a dream character, she hasn't yet prompted me to do my RC.
Long story short - who has successfully VILD'ed over the past 2 years, since Pedro's original post? Needless to say I'd probably be a little disappointed if the total count was two. sadyes


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PostPosted: Fri 02 Dec, 2005  Reply with quote

Is it really that unsuccesfull? It seems to be a really good technique indeed..But only 2/3 people have done it succelfully... Hmmm, maybe I should try another technique then. <=/

Another thing about VILD : If some-one in your made room sais 'Do an RC!' It's not really possible to do when going to sleep. Would you have to imagne you did a RC in your toughts? I don't fully understand.


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005  Reply with quote

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Would you have to imagne you did a RC in your toughts?

Yes, you imagine (visualize) that the DC tells you to perform the RC, then you imagine yourself performing it. It succeeds, then you imagine that you realize you're dreaming, then you go to the dream door and open it.

If you have fallen asleep without noticing it, the RC sensations will be slightly different and more realistic, what is likely to make you realize you're dreaming.


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005  Reply with quote

Snape wrote:
It's a little peculiar that for a technique which shows so much promise, and has recieved so much praise - only two people (Wolf and somebody else) have reported a single instance each of a successfull VILD.
I would really like for this technique to be successfull. I'm currently practicing VILD with my WBTB (2 days so far) and while I have definitely had some success with the incubation of a dream character, she hasn't yet prompted me to do my RC.
Long story short - who has successfully VILD'ed over the past 2 years, since Pedro's original post? Needless to say I'd probably be a little disappointed if the total count was two. sadyes


I managed to VILD two days ago after a SHORT WBTB, I fell in the dream almost instantly since I had been up for like 5 minutes. It's a good technique when you can concentrate or after your 5 hours of sleep.


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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

I like your idea! I have to try that one tonight. I normally went to bed around 10 or 11 pm and then changed my sleeping time just becuase my dream book says go to sleep a few hours before. But... still I find myself falling asleep even later. I like to daydream before falling asleep, but I give my thoughts tons of attention and control, the only thing I'll have to change here is just not paying much attention to my thoughts. I like that form of practicing an intention to evenchually say .... "Hey I'm dreaming." and it all makes sence to me.
Pretty cool.


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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jan, 2006  Reply with quote

Not had any luck yet but Pedro himself said he had 18 people emailed him to say it worked for them. That still isn't a lot but I guess it just works really well for some people. I'm trying to use music right now but I might give VILD a few more attempts.

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