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I want to talk about different types of dreams that we experience, not the dream subject but different types of dream settings. I am interested if anybody has any similarities among these types, any other types of dreams I am missing here? Are you getting some dream types more often in a particular induction method?

I am not using any induction techniques, Iv chosen WILD, DILD, DEILD as they seems to describe 3 main moments when I dream.
WILD - I am falling asleep without loosing lucidity, seeing my dream before I fall asleep. Takes about 5 minutes.
DILD - I fall asleep, having a blank point, then appearing in my dream and becoming lucid usually the same moment when I start seeing my dream. Not sure how long is the blank point and when I start seeing my dream.
DEILD - I wake up in the morning and going back to dreaming, can continue my previous dream or can do some thinking in my dreams, some experiments, OBE's and so on. Can move and I am staying in a state somewhere between sleep and awake. Takes only 10-15 seconds to come back to dreaming.

1 - Creator Lucid Dreams, dreams where you are lucid and you create your own world, you determine all laws of physics, you manage your DC's and decorations. Usually happens when I set my intention on a particular subject before I go to sleep. Usually from DILD, sometimes from WILD, DEILD. Easy to wake up at any time.

2a - Alien Lucid Dreams, dreams where you are lucid, you appear in a random world with its own laws of physics and DC's. You can control only your body, you cannot control other DC's. Only your personal actions and conversations can change this dream in a different direction. No matter how hard you try you are not able to control anything but your self. Usually happens when I do not set my intention to any particular subject, also I do not set my intention to lucid dreaming, going to sleep with absolutely clear mind. Usually from DILD or WILD. Hard to wake up, sometimes feels like impossible to wake up.
2b - Same as 2a, but you feel like you can switch to 1st type of dreaming at any time and you actually can intrude and act as a creator at any moment. Everything starts as in 2a, but you are having a different feeling through all the dream. Easy to wake up at any time. Usually from DILD or WILD. Easy to wake up at any time.

3 - Thinking Lucid Dreams, dreams where you are lucid, happens when you are really dedicated to something in awake life and you transfer your question to your dream and keep trying to find the answer all night. Depends on the question, can be with visuals and can be without visuals, sometimes I am located in emptiness, talking to people whom I do not see, talking to my subconscious perhaps. Sometimes I am having very vivid dream and looking for hints and answers on my questions. This type of dream sometimes can be very annoying, the problem is that as soon as I start solving my problem I get deeper and deeper into it. I can change my dream to another one, but only for few moments, in few seconds I will return back to solving my problem, again and again. I cannot remember a single night where I could switch away from this kind of dream if I had one. You can describe it as cycles, you finish one cycles you "this might be the answer" and you automatically wake up your self to remember it or to write it down or in some cases to test if you found the answer. Then you go back to sleeping and you appear in the dream where you are looking for answers again, you try to change your dream, but you come back to solving your problem, again when found another possible answer you wake up. You can also wake up when you want to wake up, but when you go back to sleeping you will start all over again. I remember nights when I woke up more then 50 times, could not sleep the whole night because I whenever I entered my dream my mind wanted to seek for the answer. Funny thing is that in the morning I did not feel sleepy at all, just like any other night. But as I said before this can feel very annoying during the whole night. Usually happens from WILD and DEILD's. Easy to wake up at any moment.

4 - Observer Lucid Dreams, dreams where you are lucid, you understand that you can intrude into your dream at any time. Sometimes you have a body, but you simply let your dream flow the way it is. You can observe your own actions without controlling them. Sometimes you act as a 3rd person camera, you do not have a body to control. Perhaps this is the type that I created for my self. When I wanted to quit lucid dreaming I failed at every attempt, I did not want to have lucid dreams but I did have them every night. I wanted to have normal non-lucid dreams or no dreams recall at all, but I could not do it. Whenever I realized that I am lucid I woke up, then went back to sleeping and entered another lucid dream or continued my previous lucid dream. I was waking up the whole night, could not sleep well at that time, I felt pretty tired when I had to go to work in the morning. Took me 3 month to find a solution and 1 more month to adapt to my new solution. I acted as an observer, I knew I am lucid but I never did any actions. I simply observed my dream like a movie. Always had that feeling that I can intrude and change everything around, but I learned to stay calm and simply observe. Sometimes I would teleport my self to the top of a mountain with beautiful nature and fresh air around me, was sitting there the whole night, enjoyed the air, enjoyed the view. Sometimes I was participating in some scary nightmares, I could observe them or I could wake up and hope to have another dream when I go back to sleep. This was until I decided to come back to lucid dreaming. It took me around 2-3 weeks to get rid of this habit. When I came back to lucid dreaming, in my first attempts I was lucid but I kept saying to my self that I do not want to control my dream and was observing only. I am glad I passed this period in my lucid dreaming, not having this type of dream anymore at all. Can happen from WILD, DILD, DEILD's. Easy to wake up at any moment.

5 - Non-Lucid Dreams. Everybody know's what it is. Last time I had those was around 5 years ago, I remember that in most of them I was chased by someone or something amd sometimes I chased someone. I was still chased when I just started lucid dreaming, then I learned to laugh and joke on those who chased me, that was my first success in dream control. Later on I stopped having any chasing dreams. Now all my dreams are lucid no matter what I do and I believe I wont be able to reverse the process, I think I wont be able to come back to non-lucid dreaming.


At the moment 2a is my favorite type of dream. In my first few years of lucid dreaming my favorite was 1 and 2b but at some point I got bored of them and wanted to experience something beyond normal creator dreams. 2a and 2b are the most vivid dreams as well.
Maybe you guess why I did not include OBE/AP/RW and so on? They are the same thing and they are part of lucid dreaming and they can be done in all types that are mentioned above. OBE/AP/RW and others will follow rules and settings of any dream type.



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PostPosted: Tue 19 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

Well one dream type I've experienced, but haven't read anything about, I would call Calculating/Programming/Re-programming.
I used to have these types of dreams alot, especially when I was younger(like12). They usually happen when:
1. I've learnt something new that I need to grasp quickly.
2. I've emersed myself in some new activity or subject(between 1 and 3 days).
3. To sort some memory stuff(still not sure what happens here).
4. To solve some technical problems(usually involving subjects of study).
5. Monthly or every three months.

In these dreams there is not much interaction on my part. What usually happens is like I'm put infront something like a computer screen and I watch as it performs calculations and stuff. To give examples, when I just started learning chess I was doing it for hours, on the second day I found that when I was dreaming all i could see were chess borads and i was playing someone over and over. It never ended and even scores were kept. Even if i woke up and went back to sleep a few minutes later I would still return to the chess game, even if I didn't want to. To get out I had to stay up for an hour and then later went back to sleep where I had normal dreams. This is the latest account and its always like this if i want it to stop.

The first time though was much more scary. All i could see were numbers and and calculations, goin all over the place. Never-ending lines of calculations. I don't remember what triggered this one. Many of it I understood. The second time it was like writing code for a program and debugging it. It was like my mind was entering some code and processing stuff. This I remember happened because i wanted to change an aspect of myself. In relation to my sorting memory trigger, this was like copying files and folders on windows.

This type of dream always lasts for the entire night if i don't stop it. I'm grateful for it cause it has helped me with certain stuff. But sometimes it's annoying, as it just sometimes repeats a certain scene over and over endlessly. Haven't had one in quite a while though, not sure why.



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PostPosted: Tue 19 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

Knightdreamer wrote:
Well one dream type I've experienced, but haven't read anything about, I would call Calculating/Programming/Re-programming.
I used to have these types of dreams alot, especially when I was younger(like12). They usually happen when:
1. I've learnt something new that I need to grasp quickly.
2. I've emersed myself in some new activity or subject(between 1 and 3 days).
3. To sort some memory stuff(still not sure what happens here).
4. To solve some technical problems(usually involving subjects of study).
5. Monthly or every three months.

In these dreams there is not much interaction on my part. What usually happens is like I'm put infront something like a computer screen and I watch as it performs calculations and stuff. To give examples, when I just started learning chess I was doing it for hours, on the second day I found that when I was dreaming all i could see were chess borads and i was playing someone over and over. It never ended and even scores were kept. Even if i woke up and went back to sleep a few minutes later I would still return to the chess game, even if I didn't want to. To get out I had to stay up for an hour and then later went back to sleep where I had normal dreams. This is the latest account and its always like this if i want it to stop.

The first time though was much more scary. All i could see were numbers and and calculations, goin all over the place. Never-ending lines of calculations. I don't remember what triggered this one. Many of it I understood. The second time it was like writing code for a program and debugging it. It was like my mind was entering some code and processing stuff. This I remember happened because i wanted to change an aspect of myself. In relation to my sorting memory trigger, this was like copying files and folders on windows.

This type of dream always lasts for the entire night if i don't stop it. I'm grateful for it cause it has helped me with certain stuff. But sometimes it's annoying, as it just sometimes repeats a certain scene over and over endlessly. Haven't had one in quite a while though, not sure why.


I want to copy-paste and put your explanation over my #3(thinking dreams). They are exactly exactly the same. Whatever I am dedicated to I keep solving those problems again and again, I replay those events thousand times with different outcomes to see which one was correct.
Also all those calculations and math, I could not stop and it was so annoying sometimes. But it helped me solve so many things.

And I could not stop them at all, if it started then that's it, next few days guaranteed problem solving all night long. Waking up and wait for few hours never helped me, I was so into it. At some point I reached a state where I was still awake and as soon as I close my eyes I start seeing those forms again, those events, calculations, hundreds of thoughts in my head.

This is really cool to find somebody with exact dream type, I thought I am alone on this. Very glad that I posted it here and found your comment. Thanks man smile

I guess I am not going crazy...



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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

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I want to copy-paste and put your explanation over my #3(thinking dreams). They are exactly exactly the same. Whatever I am dedicated to I keep solving those problems again and again, I replay those events thousand times with different outcomes to see which one was correct.
Also all those calculations and math, I could not stop and it was so annoying sometimes. But it helped me solve so many things.

And I could not stop them at all, if it started then that's it, next few days guaranteed problem solving all night long. Waking up and wait for few hours never helped me, I was so into it. At some point I reached a state where I was still awake and as soon as I close my eyes I start seeing those forms again, those events, calculations, hundreds of thoughts in my head.

This is really cool to find somebody with exact dream type, I thought I am alone on this. Very glad that I posted it here and found your comment. Thanks man smile

I guess I am not going crazy...


Wow!!! didn't realize they were that similar. Trust me i thought I was alone too. Can't believe you couldn't stop it though, must be torture. Even worse that yours lasted days!! Mine only lasted a single night, but it seemed like an endless one. And yeah you're right they are really helpful. But it sounds like you asked for yours while mine just came automatically.

Nah your definately crazy and probably me too

But don't worry, crazy is cool siiw



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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

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flowofmysoul wrote:


I want to copy-paste and put your explanation over my #3(thinking dreams). They are exactly exactly the same. Whatever I am dedicated to I keep solving those problems again and again, I replay those events thousand times with different outcomes to see which one was correct.
Also all those calculations and math, I could not stop and it was so annoying sometimes. But it helped me solve so many things.

And I could not stop them at all, if it started then that's it, next few days guaranteed problem solving all night long. Waking up and wait for few hours never helped me, I was so into it. At some point I reached a state where I was still awake and as soon as I close my eyes I start seeing those forms again, those events, calculations, hundreds of thoughts in my head.

This is really cool to find somebody with exact dream type, I thought I am alone on this. Very glad that I posted it here and found your comment. Thanks man smile

I guess I am not going crazy...


Wow!!! didn't realize they were that similar. Trust me i thought I was alone too. Can't believe you couldn't stop it though, must be torture. Even worse that yours lasted days!! Mine only lasted a single night, but it seemed like an endless one. And yeah you're right they are really helpful. But it sounds like you asked for yours while mine just came automatically.

Nah your definately crazy and probably me too

But don't worry, crazy is cool siiw


It would not matter if I wanted to have them or not, they would anyway be there. So it did not matter much if I asked or not. But sometimes I did it on purpose, because I knew that it might help me solve some questions. Many time I did not want them, because topic was not important for me, it just happened that I spent lots of time doing something and here you go, full night of endless repeats of same work.


This is actually really cool, when I realized that they happen in 100% cases as soon as I get my self dedicated to some subject, I thought about those great minds who found answers in dreams. I even had an idea to learn some science like Physics. I am pretty sure that I would have those thinking dreams every night, probably could discover some new things. smile

Sometimes I get those kind of dreams about lucid dreaming, about shared dreaming and all that beyond dreaming stuff. It is very hard to explain to somebody who never had this kind of dreams, what it is like to have a problem solving dream inside another dream. And now I found one person who understands this process.



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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

I'm always a little hesitant about classifying dreams into categories other than the traditional definitions of NLD, LD etc (which we can always be certain of because they're very clear-cut and mutually exclusive). For me, dreams are very fluid, and they can very easily change between your suggested 'dream types', Flow. In fact, classifying dreams in that way can lead to what I call the 'Inception trap', where the joy of dreaming is left untapped because of supposed arbitrary rules about them.


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

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I'm always a little hesitant about classifying dreams into categories other than the traditional definitions of NLD, LD etc (which we can always be certain of because they're very clear-cut and mutually exclusive). For me, dreams are very fluid, and they can very easily change between your suggested 'dream types', Flow. In fact, classifying dreams in that way can lead to what I call the 'Inception trap', where the joy of dreaming is left untapped because of supposed arbitrary rules about them.


For couple of years I thought like that too. But you cant change some of the dream worlds, and they are definitely different from regular LD's.



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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

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For couple of years I thought like that too. But you cant change some of the dream worlds, and they are definitely different from regular LD's.
Each to their own, I suppose, but I do hugely doubt that's another, esoteric type of lucid dream that can't be changed under any circumstances. Maybe it's just a placebo effect? A recurring dream setting cemented into your mind as immovable when in fact it just needs a bit of confidence and wishful thinking.



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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

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flowofmysoul wrote:
For couple of years I thought like that too. But you cant change some of the dream worlds, and they are definitely different from regular LD's.
Each to their own, I suppose, but I do hugely doubt that's another, esoteric type of lucid dream that can't be changed under any circumstances. Maybe it's just a placebo effect? A recurring dream setting cemented into your mind as immovable when in fact it just needs a bit of confidence and wishful thinking.

I thought about it, after 6 years of lucid dreaming almost every day, iv got very good control over my dreams. I did so many different things in lucid dream, I could loose control intentionally to make it more scary, could gain control back any time.
Whenever I get into one of these types like type 2a, everything is different there. You feel like you are on someone's territory.

During 6 years I had only 4 of such dreams as 2a (alien dream type).

But you are right, to each his own. I hope one day you will experience one of the dreams that I was talking about, it is a great feeling.



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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2013  Reply with quote

Haven't had one of those dreams in a while though, not sure why. Great to see that you have acquired so much control. If you don't mind me asking, what have you done with it so far?


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Haven't had one of those dreams in a while though, not sure why. Great to see that you have acquired so much control. If you don't mind me asking, what have you done with it so far?


Found more ideas for my martial arts training, after sparring I would analyze my and my enemy movements all night, trying new counters, faints and so on.
I brought many amazing ideas to my work, some of the ideas were so different that I am pretty sure I would not find them without these dreams.
And many many ideas on lucid dreaming, whenever I am facing a question, if I think enough of it I will start solving the question during all night. But to get this, I need to dedicate some good amount of time to such question.

It does not happen simply whenever I have a question, it happens when I think too much of something.

I think for people who do science this is some really amazing.



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I'm a student in university, studying math, physics, chemistry and pedagogics. I have had dreams where I experience the lesson from few days back 3 times in one night. They are a bit exhausting but at least my understanding of functions is crystal clear now :D (I thought it was clear before but whatever)

Also, I'm not sure if this is categorizing dreams but the setting applies some role for me, and that role determines what I can do in that dream universe. For example, in one dream I was a soldier in a war. In the dream time slowed down and went backwards at one point. I don't know why. Anyway, the dream comes to a point where soldiers on my side find a young black haired girl, probably just turned 18. They try to rape her and I want to stop them. "I can't shoot my own men" is the thought stopping me. I have to find another way and my subconscious figures out a way. I jump out of that "dream-universe" ,where I was a soldier, into a universe closer to my home universe. There I'm watching the previous scene on my computer, but now I have the ability to pause the video. Still seeing through the eyes of the soldier, but knowing it's a video on my computer, I push the air in front of me to pause the scene. Then I switch to the perspective of me on the computer and start exploring the house.



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I'm a student in university, studying math, physics, chemistry and pedagogics. I have had dreams where I experience the lesson from few days back 3 times in one night. They are a bit exhausting but at least my understanding of functions is crystal clear now :D (I thought it was clear before but whatever)

Also, I'm not sure if this is categorizing dreams but the setting applies some role for me, and that role determines what I can do in that dream universe. For example, in one dream I was a soldier in a war. In the dream time slowed down and went backwards at one point. I don't know why. Anyway, the dream comes to a point where soldiers on my side find a young black haired girl, probably just turned 18. They try to rape her and I want to stop them. "I can't shoot my own men" is the thought stopping me. I have to find another way and my subconscious figures out a way. I jump out of that "dream-universe" ,where I was a soldier, into a universe closer to my home universe. There I'm watching the previous scene on my computer, but now I have the ability to pause the video. Still seeing through the eyes of the soldier, but knowing it's a video on my computer, I push the air in front of me to pause the scene. Then I switch to the perspective of me on the computer and start exploring the house.


Nice experience there with jumping from one dream universe to another. I also did that some time ago, it is also possible to do as a normal dream change.

How exactly did it look like when you jumped from one dream universe to another, what was in between?



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I felt like I was pulled out of that world, then realized my new body that was looking at a computer. It was almost instantaneous. I don't know if there was anything in between.

But some time ago I travelled in a dream by changing my point in time and space so that I saw innumerable amount of different places in between the two points. It was all mixed, like if I was at point (3,4) the point next to it (4,4) could be on another planet and 5000 years to the future. It's hard to explain, but it was the coolest way I have ever gotten around in a dream.

In that dream I had been on a frozen planet and the people there needed help, I used this travel method to get help but never found my way back, because finding a single point in that mixed space-time was near impossible.



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I felt like I was pulled out of that world, then realized my new body that was looking at a computer. It was almost instantaneous. I don't know if there was anything in between.

But some time ago I travelled in a dream by changing my point in time and space so that I saw innumerable amount of different places in between the two points. It was all mixed, like if I was at point (3,4) the point next to it (4,4) could be on another planet and 5000 years to the future. It's hard to explain, but it was the coolest way I have ever gotten around in a dream.

In that dream I had been on a frozen planet and the people there needed help, I used this travel method to get help but never found my way back, because finding a single point in that mixed space-time was near impossible.


Nice. Do you ever have double or triple layered dreams? Like having 2-3 or more dreams at the same time, seems like they are one under another but you can see all of them, sometimes getting lost what happens in one of them, but you can alt tab between them very very fast.



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