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Insomnia - Can't sleep! Part I

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Xetrov
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

Araknida seems you should take a break from thinking too much about LD's, when you go to sleep just sleep and dont push yourself wanting LD's too much. If I were to advise a technique you could try without too much effort it would be MILD. Do that for let's say 10 minutes and then quit and go to sleep.

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

EDIT: Apparently I posted this on the wrong board, sorry mods, I'm really groggy

I went to sleep today at 9:30.

I slept for 60 minutes it was great, and then my mother came home, she turned off my fan, turned on the lights, and started watching television.... right when I'm sleeping right next to her.

I had a feeling that I slept for much longer then 60 minutes which is a very good sign, but I can't get to sleep now.

Well, I asked her to take it into her room and she did, but now I've been laying in bed for 90 minutes not being able to get to sleep.

What can I do?

I tried doing the relaxation techniques and it didn't work.


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

I have suffered from periodic insomnia for a long time, and have found out that there is little use in trying hard to fall asleep. What works best for me, is to make the time in bed less boring by for example imagining interesting scenes. They have to be far from real life, to not start distracting trains of thought. More often than not, I fall asleep in the middle of that.

Something else that works for me is to pay attention to the feeling of lying in bed, how comfortable it is, and how hard it would be if i had to get up now.

It seems like 90 minutes is the "magic" time...it usually takes about that time for me to fall asleep again if i wake up at an unwanted time. It might have something to do with the length of the sleep cycle?



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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

Probably... Often when I wake up for WBTB I only fall asleep after around 90 minutes!

Those returning periods of insomnia still bother me. Usually I miss a few hours of sleep but when I'm in a stressful period of life (like now) I will have no sleep at all. I usually know this early in the night, and I go do something else when I feel such a night coming. And then I just survive the day without too much complaining


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Re: Insomnia - Can't sleep!
PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

Nuclei wrote:
My problem is that it often takes me 1 to 2 hours to fall asleep.


lol nuclei i have that as well if i cant get to sleep with in an hour, i useually try and wear my self down by thinking of alot of different stuff at the same time, it works now and then or i trya self bondage technique were i jsut lay face up in my bed face up for ages and dont move any part of my body after a while i feel like im apart of the bed and like sunk into it even tho im not lol, well that helps me sleep.


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

First: sometimes you *think* you're awake for several hours, but in fact you sleep sometimes for a very short period without noticing it.

And advices? Besides not taking any drugs like ritalin (yeah of course you can't sleep after taking *that* super speed thingie) or whatever, having a bit of excercise during the day, not sleeping in the afternoon, I suggest not to worry.
It will pass, I had it myself some years ago. But now, I close my eyes and I sleep. I can't even do WILD because I feel like sinking a bit away (say 15% sleeping) and the next thing that happens is that I awake during the night or day.
But if you can't sleep, just stay calm. If you get nervous, you won't be able to sleep at all. Just stay calm, you're awake, so what? Just rest a bit, and sooner or later you will sleep. You HAVE to stay calm if you can't get asleep. Do some relaxation excercises to stay relaxed at that moment.

But I have also a question: I get asleep very fast, I sleep deeply, but I always wake up very early. Yesterday, I got in my bed at 2:00. And I woke up this morning at 7:00. And when it would be 4:00, then maybe I'll wake up at 8:00 or so. And that's really: to wake up. I didn't snooze anymore or so, I was completely awake. Relaxation doesn't help, I felt like I just don't need any sleep at that moment. But when it's 15:00 or so, I get very tired. Please, is there a way to continue sleeping in the morning?


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

I just can't seem to get to sleep. It takes me ages, and that's especially bad at the momnet because it is my exam week. Does anyone know of anything that will get me to sleep quickly? Preferably something that doesn't require lots of time to train the body.

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

check this topic sleep1 yawn

(incidently, this post will be merged into it)


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Try reading something that is really boring to you at the time. If you are not technical, look at the instruction manual to the microwave or something. If you hate spiritual stuff then try to read some boring scriptures that you do not want to understand. The logic here is it has to be uninteresting.

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Have you ever tried sleeping with your eyes open? Works for me.


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

*does RC*

Can you sleep with your eyes open?


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Yep, i always used to do it, my dream is just projected onto the ceiling, like a movie!


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

cool, i had that once, it was weird, i woke up with my eyes open once for some reason:P

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Don't know if this applies to most, but i'm a thinker and i can't sleep for hours after going to bed because i constantly think. After getting certain strange stomach pains i realised i actually had an axiety disorder.. Being a normal teenager, under lots of stress via girls, university and such, it's not hard to blame one for developing anxiety.. The doctor placed me on Temazepam to help me sleep (on nights where i became frustrated) and it helped a lot. However benzodiazapenes seemed to knock me so flat into sleep that i didn't dream full stop.

Dont know why im writing this, maybe someone can get something useful from it!


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PostPosted: Mon 31 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Hebrew2 wrote:
Have you ever tried sleeping with your eyes open? Works for me.


Hmmm, I might give that a go at work.

Though I'm no expert by any means I have done some research into insomnia treatments for a university assignment (see the link in my signature), and have applied some of the techniques which I found to be quite effective. Basically regular exercise, good diet (plenty of fruit and veg), regular sleep schedules, and even meditation can facilitate a good nights sleep. All of the above I personally practice with diligence every day, so I can tell you it works! On a side note, I haven't had a headache in about a year either...
As somebody already said, spending too much time in bed if you can't get to sleep is a bad idea, as you build up an association with stress/worry and wakefulness as opposed to sleep and relaxation. A better idea would be to get up and watch tv for half hour. In any case, for insomnia a multifaceted approach is most effective - don't try just changing one variable in your life, change them all. If you're committed you would see drastic improvements by adding 30 minutes of exercise, a bowl of vegetables, quitting caffeine, and practicing 20 minutes of meditation everday.

BTW Garlic, I'm in Sydney too!


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