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Spiritsnare
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Mar, 2005  Reply with quote

I have devolved from actually recalling dreams - up to four times a week - and then suddenly I can't remember anymore.

However, when I get woken up, I find myself heavy and nearly unable to move. I had a hunch that I was about to enter the REM state. x.x

That, and I get about 7 hours of sleep each (school) day. Hmmm....


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar, 2005  Reply with quote

hi all,

it's the third time I started a DJ, now im going to LD for real.
6 days have passed. In the first three i did get better and better recall, but last three days I didn't remember anything!

When I'm awake, I don't move my body, and try to remember ("What did i dream, what did i dream!") But nothing happens...
I'm still very drowsy (and a bit chaotic in my mind - in the sense of, stil sleepy) , maybe I should be more awake?
It sounds to me I'm to sleepy to recall, and my mind is not clear enough.

Does anyone had the same problem?
What should I do?


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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar, 2005  Reply with quote

Hi Isaac !

First of all, don't worry about this. The more you stress, the less you'll be able to remember your dreams. It's perfectly normal that we can't sometimes recall our dreams, sometimes even during a few days.

If you're on a dry spell, I would recommand to do all this practices :
- before sleeping, repeat "Tomorrow morning, I'll remember my dreams".
- when waking up, don't move and don't think "What did i dream, what did i dream!" : just let memories come on.
- if after a minute, you don't remember anything, try to make associations : think about random words, like "a dog.... a plane... a camel, etc." When one of this words makes you remember a feeling of your dreams, focus on this feeling until you catch a dream fragment. With this fragment, ask yourself what happend before, and thus you can build again your dream.
- if you can just remember a feeling or a fragment, write it down nevertheless.
- if after two minutes, you can't remember anything, don't worry : it will be better next time ! smile


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar, 2005  Reply with quote

thanks for the reply basilus west.
i'd figured out i did stress it to much...
last two days my recall is back (14th and 15th march) :D :D

I'm now a bit troubled to choose a technique.
I can't try to wake up and immediatly try to fall asleep again (WILD), because i also want to write down dreams to keep my recall up.

autosugesstion, VILD (maybe MILD), and WILD all seem promising.
but i'm offtopic now!


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr, 2005  Reply with quote

What a great thread. I think this will help me alot.

For the past 3 or 4 days I have had no recall. Normally I have Recall then a day or two off then recall again, ect...

I've started a dream journal recently within the past month or so and my recall improved for bit and now the dry period. Not only dry but I don't even have the impression that I dreamed something which I usually do.

I'm going to try alot of the techniques I see here and see how they work for me. I want at least 1 dream a night before I start the LD techniques.

I'm beginning to have a very strong desire to LD again, this time to really explore what's out there and see what I can do.

The background chatter in my mind keeps referring to it as "activating" for some reason. Little "voices" saying, "you must activate now". eh


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what you do when you cant remember dreams one morning
PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2005  Reply with quote

so what is the general concensus of what should be done when one doesnt remember any dreams from the night before in regards to a dream journal?

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2005  Reply with quote

I still write in my dream journal even on the days I don't recall any dreams because I like to take notes so I can try to improve my recall. For example, if I know that I dreamt but just can't grasp the memories, I'll write exactly that. Or if I have zero memory, I'll write that down too. I even write down when I had a memory but was too lazy to sit up and write it down and consequently forgot it in the hopes that I won't make that mistake again. ^^ I also keep track of my bedtime and waking time each night to see if the length of my slumber affects my ability to recall my dreams.

Don't despair over your lack of recall; I recently went almost two weeks with zero recall, I've only ever had one low-level LD, still can't recall a minimum of one dream per night, and I've been keeping my DJ for about five months now.

If you need advice on remembering your dreams, check out The BIG Remembering Dreams Topic - Part 2: http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5475

Part 1 is here:
http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2859

There are many people (myself included) who have posted similar topics:
http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=121755

http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11663

There is much more advice on the forum and it's not too hard to find. Good luck!


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Eyes - open or closed?
PostPosted: Sun 15 May, 2005  Reply with quote

What's the consensus on remembering dreams...with your eyes open or closed or both? I'm trying to think how I usually do it and I know that if I lie still and try to remember with my eyes closed sometimes I fall back to sleep and then I tend to forget the dream I was trying to recall, but then again if I open my eyes I can get too distracted by real life and not remember either. Although I guess remembering doesn't necessarily matter either way because sometimes in the middle of the day when I'm wide awake something will strike me and give me a flash of a dream memory.

I just thought about how we say our eyes are open or closed when it's actually our eyelids...I guess that old 80's song by Kix "Don't Close Your Eyes" would sound dumb if it was "Don't Close Your Eyelids". ^^


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PostPosted: Mon 16 May, 2005  Reply with quote

I think the consensus is : with your eyes closed. You more hardly remember and visualize images if they are open.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005  Reply with quote

hi,

I have DJ since 3 months and i can remember atleast one dream every night sometimes 3 to 4 dreams.

I'm worried about last week because i did not remeber any dream (thats 7 nights with none dream recall). Whats happening?


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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Hi lots of |'s. (what kind of name is that anyway?)

That's called a dry spell, and mostly it will pass pretty soon. It might work if you force it, by using a technique (like waking up during the night) or using certain substances (like b6 vitamins). But of course there's no guarantee.


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PostPosted: Sat 21 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Xetrov,

lots of |'s is kind of pseudonim, which can be written but not read. actually it does not mean something.

and 10x for giving me accurate reply. I didnt know that such phenomenon exist. is there some more information about this dry spell: when it occurs, how long it continues, why ... etc.


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PostPosted: Sun 22 May, 2005  Reply with quote

It depends form person to person. Personally, I have come to understand that I have ups and downs in DR, it seems to variate somewhat comparable to a sine. At its depth, I can have like a week of bad recall (never zero, but that might be because I practise recall for 3 years). At its top, I dont have to do anything to remember many dreams I had during last night's sleep. Im not sure why this phenomena exists, just that it is temporary, so dont worry too much.

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lexman098
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Dream recall and LDs
PostPosted: Sun 22 May, 2005  Reply with quote

What exactly is it about dream recall that's important to LDs? When reading about LDs I often come upon stuff about dream recall and I'd like to know what the connection is.

My best guess right now is that the better DR you have the more chance of LD you have but I've always been really good with DR and the only LD i've had was a few weeks ago when I was on hydrocodone for pain from my wisdom teeth operation.


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Basilus West
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Re: Dream recall and LDs
PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Lexman098,
Having a good dream recall doesn't give you better chances to have LD's. For instance, there are tons of psychanalytical DJ's, with no one LD inside.
A lot of people believe that when you have a LD, you must necessarily remember it; which is wrong, especially when practising DILD. A LD may end up in a normal dream, and you're likely to forget it. Moreover, you're doing a lot of things in dreams or in hypnagogic state that you can't remember later, if you don't train your dream recall. That's why there is so much stuff about DR when talking about LD'ing.

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