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LylyCSM
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PostPosted: Fri 25 May, 2007  Reply with quote

I have deja vu quite frequently. I especially used to have them a lot when I was younger. I even remember one time when I had a dream and then weeks later, the same thing happened.
I also often use the knowledge of the outcome of the previous deja vu to avoid doing something... strange I know, but it seems to work.


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[quote="sno_isulli"] *In conjunction with deja vu, I get this weird thing I tend to call "the nothingness." I don't know if anybody has this but very VERY often I get the feeling like I'm not "here". I go through the motions but don't feel like I am actually where I am when I'm there. quote]

I've had that feeling every now and then since I was a very little girl... I used to get incredibly freaked out by it and used to call it my 'lonely feeling'... When I was really young I had to climb in bed with my mum and dad to try and make it go away.. it never worked.. my mother used to say "How can you be lonely, you've got all your family here?!" It was scary as I just felt empty and as if I was invisible.. not a very reassuring emotion when you are only about 4! cry

Anyway.. I get Deja vu ALL of the time.... it's incredibly frustrating..
The freakiest thing though was when I actually had reacurring dreams of this river type thing but I thought it must be the sea because we were going on a ferry.... but it was a tiny ferry with a bar to stop cars going over the edge...
About a month later I was going to a rowing regatta at dartmouth (i think it was... it began with a 'dar' anyway..)we had to cross the river to get to the other side... then my dad mentioned the word Ferry... I looked over to the other side... there was the hills, the church and the houses... all were in those dreams I'd had... and the ferry was exactly the same... I was incredibly freaked out... was it a premonition? Or just Deja Vu? Had I just imagined that I had had reacurring dreams though I can clearly remember telling my dad about them?? Please enlighten me on this subject!! whatsthat i am confuzzled... help!


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

Peachey wrote:
I was at an acustic gig with some mates yesterday. One of my mates walked up the stairs to were the gig was happining. He looked at the person on stage with a shocked look on his face.

He walked over and said "Oh my god I just got Deja Vu!"

Apparently he had dreamed this the night before, the same person on stage, I was standing in the same position with the same drink in my hand. Very strage.


I have always said that deja vus are when something we did in a dream happens. A similar thing to what you described has happened to me before, where I was pretty sure that I'd dreamed something that happened during the day.


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

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I have always said that deja vus are when something we did in a dream happens.

that is precog and we have a different sticky topic for that.



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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

Yeah I know, but I'm just saying that that's the explanations for deja vus, just a dream of a similar situation that we could have dreamt at any time in out life but forgot and that's why we feel like we've defintly been in this situatioin before.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

I have a theory that Déjà Vu is the misplacement of a thought into the distant memory part of the brain, or maybe a mistagging of the thought into the past thereby giving you two images of a moment, one seemingly in the past and one in your short term memory. I think that the "older copy" of the moment is destroyed "(maybe as an evolutionary adaptation) in favor of the short term memory copy because the brain would have an maddeningly disturbing absense in memory. I mention this because you immidiatly lose the sensation of Déjà Vu as you lose the two copies of the moment, but the brain recalls the seperate sensation of remembering the same thing twice.

This would explain the uncanny indifference between what you think has happened and what just happened during what we call Déjà Vu.

This is untestable in my opinion. There is no way I have heard of to trigger Déjà Vu, therefore we would have to keep a person under monitering constantly in hopes of him feeling Déjà Vu and being able to track the paterns of the brain signals. However the amount of change is probably undetectable and you would only get a spike of shock that the person feels from knowing Déjà Vu has taken place. If anyone would like to add to this theory that I have posted here they may, keep in mind I havn't analyzed the 6 pages of detailed posts yet =(


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

not a bad idea you know, spec for 15.

opens ones mind up to a few different ideas



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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007  Reply with quote

Isn't deja vu just a momentary lapse, or delay between the sensory data being received and the brain fully processing it?

I couldn't read the whole topic so if someone already mentioned this then sorry!

My understanding is that you may see or hear whatever it is but your brain doesn't fully intergrate the info into you right away. This is why when you have Deja vu you sometimes think that you can predict exactly what someone is going to say a split second before you actually hear them say it. You're not actually predicting it, you're just remembering before the audio data is actually processed.

What I find more fascinating is Jamais vu, this is when something that you do all the time, something that is incredibly normal to you, feels strange and alien, as if you yourself have suddenly found yourself out of place, out of time even, within your own daily routine.
I get it sometimes in the office, I'll just be walking down the corridors or something and suddenly the most peculiar feeling of alienation and confusion comes over me and everything that I know becomes unfamiliar and unreal.


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

A couple days ago, i was sitting in my living room with brother and mom aswell. Watching tv and such, when my dad walks in. I thought to myself, wait this happend before, we were saying the same things and i knew what everybody was going to say. I kept this to myself and even like pointed to where everyone was going to say something. But the oddest thing came when i pointed at my mom and said the exact same thing she said like a second before her.

Eerie isn't it, true story.


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I remember one time I was having Deja Vu and I thought to myself I should just do something totally out of the ordinary so the feeling will stop. So I ran into my living room and rolled on the ground but the feeling only got stronger.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I tend to have the nothingness feeling when I get really excited, and then the feeling of not actually being there makes me do some crazy stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I've had a dream once in which I had a deja-vu. I was working behind a counter helping this woman who asked me a question. Then she left the shop. Then I dreamt the same thing again and as I was helping this woman I realized I was having a deja-vu. I then woke up with an unexplainable feeling of having discovered something profound, that there is a connection between dreams and deja-vu's.

The next day, I started looking on the internet. Beforehand I always thought that deja-vu's were something like a glitch in your brain. But on the internet I discovered a different theory.

Deja-vu's are things you see in real life, that you previously saw in your dreams. I read this one account from this guy That had dreamt about sitting in a classroom and something happened. 30 seconds after this event the headmaster came into the classroom and asked about something unrelated to the event.
When this guy a few days later in the classroom saw this event happening before his eyes, he knew the headmaster was going to come in the classroom in 30 seconds and asked about this unrelated thing, it actually happened!!

I think I have had an experience like this as well, but I can't proof it because at the time I wasn't keeping a dream journal. So now I'm not sure about my own experience. It was about a question that was being asked on Who wants to be a millionaire. It was a difficult question, but I knew the answer because I think I dreamt it. I dreamt the whole scene and then it happened.... Really weird.


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Sometimes i wake up with a dream still fresh in my memory and it seems very familiar to me. It doesn't relate to any real life events, Only past dreams or fake dream memories.

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Are Deja Vu and Dreaming related?
PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep, 2007  Reply with quote

Have you ever had deja vu? Where your in the middle of doing something and it suddenly feels like this has happened before, or you know what will happen next. One time I was playing the video game "Super smash Bros. Melee", and I had this weird feeling of deja vu and I knew what was going to happen (I won the match grin)

Do you think that deja vu is at all like dreaming. How do you think that you know what will happen?

Oops, sorry! I didn't see the deja vu sticky! Could someone move this please?

<mod>No problem ysim </mod>


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep, 2007  Reply with quote

[If they're moving this they might as well move my post too?]

I believe the deja vu feeling is actually from a dream. We have about 6 dreams a night and do not remember all of them. Now, if you do something IRL that you did in one of those dreams you might have a deja vu feeling.


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