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WattsNet
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Let's make our own LD hypnosis file
PostPosted: Mon 10 May, 2004  Reply with quote

This subject is a product of this subject:
http://www.ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4698

Now I have already noticed some positive effects myself from the LucidCurse files at WarpYourMind.com, but I really think that the script, presentation, and production could be improved.
Everyone's biggest complaint with the WarpYourMind hynosis files is EMG's voice. Well, I'm inclined to agree. I know it was already mentioned under that topic that someone should create a new one or everyone should create their own, but what I'm proposing is that we work on a script together, and find someone with a nice soothing voice and create one with everyone's input.
Heck, this could even be modified into (or added to) a LD induction file or CD.

First off, I'll put my money where my mouth is and put up the webspace for the final product.

Here are a couple of starting points off the top of my head:

- More suggestions concerning reality checks.

- Less emphasis on "you can do things to your DC and not feel guilty" because I think we all get an idea where this guys going and I think that it's space that could be used with better suggestions.

- Added suggestions of dream signs.

- Added theta waves or other trance inducing pattern.

Anyway, if your interested, post some script improvements and maybe even nominate yourself if you know you have the "voice" and /or experience with hypnosis.[/url]


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PostPosted: Tue 11 May, 2004  Reply with quote

I agree... I had used the LD curse for a few months back in the day... but his voice always bugged me, and I don't think his script was very good.

I think we should at least put together a script, and include information on how to use a few "popular" brainwave generators. I have foudn that binaural beats in MP3 format are NOT as effective.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 May, 2004  Reply with quote

When I first started looking into expanded awareness someone sent me an MP3 of one of the Hemi-Sync CDs and that put me in a trance the first time I listened to it so surely it can be done.

I don't see why we couldn't use the "Better than CD" quality encoding and use something like that as a background track for this.

I'm sure there is a member here that has some experience playing around with this and getting it to work.
Also you probably noticed that on the WarpMyMind site that some of his files are Theta encoded. How was that done? Is there a program that does that?
I will do some research.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 May, 2004  Reply with quote

cool edit pro can do it

i just put some delta binaural sycnh on some brown noise, and recorded a script i wrote

well the script didn't do a thing for me but man I am drowsy right now...

it went from low beta to theta in 5 minutes then in 3 minutes dropped to mid delta...

it sounded like crap though really through my mp3 player.... it did make me get groggy pretty fast though, like within 5 minutes I'd say.


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PostPosted: Wed 12 May, 2004  Reply with quote

Do you think it was your MP3 player that degraded the sound quality? Do you have options as to what quality encoding you want to use?

If we can overcome the quality issue I think it is definetly worth a try to integrate some kind of background inducer.

Cool Edit Pro was bought out by Adobe and is now known as Adobe Audition. It isn't cheap but I will buy it if no one already has it or isn't interested in the project.

Either way it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a few different versions depending on preferences: With or without background binaural waves, with or without soothing music or nature sounds, or just plain jane.

I noticed some people saying the brainwave gen stuff seems to have diminished effect over time (when using the same preset) so maybe we should just focus on the script and getting someone with the right voice.




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PostPosted: Wed 12 May, 2004  Reply with quote

umm.....

*insert pirate smiley*

*taps his nose while winking*

bwgen should do it too, or... there are probably cheap/free things that will work as well, I'm just not familiar with them.


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PostPosted: Thu 13 May, 2004  Reply with quote

This sounds like a very neat idea smile Would be cool with a ld4all.com dream-cd smile

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PostPosted: Fri 14 May, 2004  Reply with quote

I now have Adobe Auction 1.0 wink

Let's get the ball rolling by throwing out some ideas for the script.

Also, even if it's not you, maybe you know someone that has a great voice for this project. See if they might be interested and record a sample and I'll set up a website where we all can listen and vote on who would be best suited.


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PostPosted: Sun 16 May, 2004  Reply with quote

LOL..I too have listened to the WarpmyMind files...and i agree with the verdict on the guy's voice..I just couldnt listen to him for longer than 10 secs.

Anyway..just letting you know that I have been recording some scripts too but instead of using any theta waves i used the reverb features from Cool edit Pro..at times i also experimented with sound forge's Sonic Foundry.

Sound Forge has a preset called Dreamscape..it adds a kind of "dreamy" effect to spoken words (what else)..I tried it and the first night i listened to my CD..one of my DCs said.."Hey you are Dreaming".

I also experimented with locating the sounds from left to right over time..and this had an entrancing effect...it would seem as though the sounds are passing from my left through my head then to my right then reversing direction from right to left..made me trancey..very quickly.


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PostPosted: Mon 17 May, 2004  Reply with quote

Would you mind uploading one of your scripts to me? It sure would help get the ball rolling and I would love to hear the effect your talking about. I'll send you some FTP info just in case.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 May, 2004  Reply with quote

Certainly..as soon as you are ready!!

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PostPosted: Tue 18 May, 2004  Reply with quote

Mentap, check your private messages.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 May, 2004  Reply with quote

This sounds like a good idea, I've got audacity and a microphone, I also have a friend who's realy into the music/sound creating stuff.

You have my help if you want it.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 May, 2004  Reply with quote

Cool. Thanks, Mystery.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 May, 2004  Reply with quote

A problem I found with the warpmymind files, besides the pervert voice(and website content... lol), is that his LD inducitons are too complicated and I don't think that he has even a mild understanding of lucid dreaming.

Ideas for the script...

I think it should have simple suggestions like...
"You are finding your subconcious taking over"
"You are are concious of your subconcious"
"You are a part of your dreams"

etc... none of this.. "if the people around you behave different".. "as soon as you notice odd things happening"

I don't that your subconcious has an idea of "if"

I do think that his relaxation script is fine, but I just don't buy his lucid dreaming script.. it is just too complicated..

I'm not saying I know the best way to do this, but I think that we could definitely do a better job with the script just sticking to basic commands and suggestions... even like "You will plug your nose and breath in"... I mean, just imprinting a reality check into your dreams could be a huge help.


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