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milod789
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jun, 2004  Reply with quote

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no way am i joining that i like women too much too give up on a chance too mate


Now that is a scary thought. whatsthat


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jun, 2004  Reply with quote

it never says no sex, it says NO HAVING KIDS

which means MORE SEX if you play you cards right.

I figure like, maybe radiation or chemical sterilization would be nifty..... no need for surgery and sharp things in my pants.... ughhh...

but yeah I'm a member of VHEMT, what with being a virgin and not liking kids....... lol.

It's a great site though, I guess it's serious, too.


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun, 2004  Reply with quote

oh okay hmm i might join since it is only no more kids (i should read more shy2 )

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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

looks like NO drafts, except in sports.

And about the VHEMT. Neat! I don't think it says anything about adopting children who have already been born, if you're really bent on having kids. What is so prescious about your genetic material anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Shinta of Wu, it's not worth commenting on your ridiculous statements about genocide, but it is worth saying that despite your best intentions the odds are that you would not like killing. Before modern military methods were developed the US and the UK had excellent evidence that only 2% of soldiers actually fired their weapons to kill. 1% of those people were psychos and loved killing, 1% were true heros who had 'flexible morals' that allowed them to kill the 'enemy'. Now about 90% or more of US and UK soldiers shoot to kill, but they still have no solutions for the small problem of mentally dealing with killing people and being in a war. Most people are still horribly mentally scarred for life after the experience and never recover, those that like it either go on to kill civilians or join the special forces - and then generally kill civilians or themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Why can't people just live in peace with each other.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

I agree Dreamer. That's not to say I don't think we should protect ourselves though. Some of the weirdos that say that are just as bad as the killing psychos.
holy reality wrote:

Even if someone was attacking me for no reason and I killed him, I wouldn't feel good about it, in the moment i was doing it, and right when it was over, I might have enjoyed it, have felt good in winning against him, in defending myself, but it's nothing I'd be happy about in the long run, and nothing I'd want to do again.

Holy Reality makes a good point. I'd kill to prtoect myself or others, but I wouldn't be thinking how "cool" it was later.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Shinta of Wu wrote:

2.i am not stupid for what i wrote think about it everypone has thought about killing.Below all the tolerance & self control you see on tv you know you want to.that is what ld is for but you dont get the rush you would probably normally get.

That is truly sick. I am a guy, so I admit, playing paintball, or Halo or watching shows like "24" give me a rush and I may occasionally have fantasies about protecting a girl or my family or friends from a "bad guy" (but not nessecarily killing) and I might even get a rush from being in a military situation, but killing, really and truly killing and enjoying it (at least later)? I don't think so. That's messed up.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Yeah, I agree with you Dream_Reacher, you should definately fight to protect yourself. Though if everyone lived in peace there wouldn't be any need to.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Yeah.

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PostPosted: Wed 18 May, 2005  Reply with quote

Been in the army almost two years now...
that rumour was being spread around here about last spring, last fall, last winter...
it never ends.
I do not think that the united states army could operate effectively by making people involluntairly join and receive the training to be a lean green killing machine.
I've had people in my unit who had second thoughts after coming in, that the army wasnt for them... they were just dead weight, they caused an extreme downfall to the effectiveness and morale of the unit and the mission simply because of their negative attitude and unwillingness to perform.
I would hate to see the day that i have entire platoons of people who never wanted to be in the army in the first place coming into my unit even though we are understrength. It simply would not work. We could never operate that way.
The army has prided it self as of late for being the largest and most effective volunteer army in the world. We are effective because this is the job we chose. Anything else would just be names added to a roster at a loss of effectiveness.
A draft would certainly mean quantity over quality.
That gets people killed.



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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2005  Reply with quote

sisokogotai wrote:
Been in the army almost two years now...
that rumour was being spread around here about last spring, last fall, last winter...
it never ends.


Yes that rumor has been around for some time but, when you look at the fact that the military is missing it’s recruit goals by 40% + you never know what will happen in t the future. Also, many claim that the reserves and national guard are being use as a back door draft right now! When your time is up soldiers should be allowed to return home.

Personally I think there should be a draft. Perhaps then our leaders will be more careful about deciding when to go to war.


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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2005  Reply with quote

milod789 wrote:


Personally I think there should be a draft. Perhaps then our leaders will be more careful about deciding when to go to war.


I dunno about your leaders of the future, but I doubt the guy leading your country now is that smart, nor does he care that much.


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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2005  Reply with quote

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milod789 wrote:
Also, many claim that the reserves and national guard are being use as a back door draft right now! When your time is up soldiers should be allowed to return home
Personally I think there should be a draft. Perhaps then our leaders will be more careful about deciding when to go to war.

Very true, 18 month deployements for guard and reserve units (as opposed to 12 for RA)
what i have been seeing a WHOLE lot is a large number of people being pulled from IRR (individual ready reserve, 2-6 year period after termination of enlistment the army can pull you onto active duty status)
Lot of angry people being pulled back into the army after finishing their contracts and begining to start new lives...
i'd hate to see a draft as opposed to this, delaying the start of a new lifestyle is no where near as bad as stopping life goals in their track.



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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2005  Reply with quote

(two posts in a row, i know! this is a topic i feel strongly about)
Josh Redstone wrote:

I dunno about your leaders of the future, but I doubt the guy leading your country now is that smart, nor does he care that much.

yeah, bush is a trigger happy texan' with the worlds largest and most powerful weapons on a hairpin trigger in his grasp.
i hope and pray he stops with iraq.
i fear iran and korea will come soon.
if it does, a draft is certain.
i hope actions in iraq are resolved in haste and that there will be no need for a draft.



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