I agree with DM7 on the doctor putting you under thing. When I got mouth surgery when I woke up it was like being really drunk but I didn’t think they had started yet! It was kind of like taking way too much medicine (benedryl and amozicilin) and passing out last summer when I had ear infections, I would wake up and not really know what was going on and didn’t remember sleeping very much. Is it that you don’t dream or that you just have no recall I wonder? I’m assuming that if my thought of reincarnation is wrong then that’s what it would be like to be dead, if you could extend that nothing between when they drug you and before you wake up, forever.
Yeah… 
Yes Mystic i did 
for ten years i had an eeg machine…with an nde my eeg was almost flat.
In the blackvoid under dream stage you saw mostly deltawaves on the eeg.
I now know a pet scan would be way more interesting 4 ld research lol but i got no money 4 that
Jeff
Wow, that’s got to be the first EEG from a NDE ever recorded!! Nice job!! 
Have you got an explanation of why it was nearly flat? You should send your results to sleep laboratories or the Lucidity Institute 
(sorry, a little of topic)
Jeff:
so you were lucid in deep sleep, intresting! i never heard about that. in what stage do you get there, how? are you using WILD or MILD ?
are your thoughts different from waking life, or is it the same as you were thinking in waking life, only that you have no bodey ?
Hi mystic
mm i dont know if its the first eeg recording of a NDE, think in hospitals they have eeg recordings to of NDE’s.
Its flat because the deeper you go into trance the more you shut of brain functions, i mean the less active the brain will be…and the electricity shuts down to. So a near flat eeg recording.
Jeff
Mindexplorer, its stage 4, deep sleep stage.
How i get there, well years ago i used a mix of selfhypnosis, meditation and breathing for it…so a very sophisticated wild or dream yoga you could call it.
Later i found out that if you use selfhypnosis in a lucid dream its childs play to get from there into the deep sleep lucid. I use selfhypnosis in my lucid dreams to let my dreambody fall a sleep and it desolves totally and also my real body follows then into deep sleep… then you enter the second black void, (the first black void witch is less deep and intense is between waking and rem sleep). your only eyes…zero gravity no dreambody. your consciousness is almost the same as when you are awake. your less distracted to things lol.
If you go deeper into sleep you go into a nde and al changes again into a 10.000 watts neon bright light and strange loud buzzes and wind and you have a body again of light…bit weird.
Jeff
Interesting stuff indeed… I wonder what would happen if you went even deeper… die? Do you have this eeg machine still?
And how long time did you use to reach this “nde” state?
Hi Tomas…i still had to answer your post…lol i almost forgot…
If i go from the pure wild thing…from waking to nde it always took me 2 hours but now after so many years its between 45 and 60 min.
If i take the short cut lol, fast wild like the dream yoga throat chakra tech i can do it in 15 to 20 minutes. Because once i enter dream sleep lucid i can use selhypnosis and go like a rocket so fast into deeper sleep levels.
Yes in the end you would die if u go deeper and deeper.
yogi’s say that we have 7 sleep levels and normal ppl only use the first 4.
last 3 are nde and real obe’s… but they say u kill the body if u go over the edge of the 7th level of sleep. I can go below level 4…the deep sleep stage, so thats level 5, i was never below that. Maybe at the end of my life lol.
Nope sold my eeg some years ago now, maybe i buy a new one…dont know yet
Bye Tomas 
Jeff
Wow some very interesting abilities you have Jeff
I was wondering: do you know where to get a second-hand EEG machine? I did a search on the net but the ones I’ve found were new, and always cost more than 5000 euro. This is a bit too much for my little budget 
Thx
Hi mystic
Thx!
Mm i dont know, really saved up 4 one then!
To bad i sold mine else you could try that one.
I would ask the shops that sell them to call u if maybe a buyer brings one back. Or i would put an advertisement at internet.
Maybe u get lucky, its worth it, it gives u big info about all your sleep and meditation patterns.
Good Luck!
Jeff
Ok thx for that Jeff. I’ll search around a bit. Perhaps I’m lucky Or perhaps my doctor or someone at a hospital knows something about it. But first I’ll start to save some money 
Mm not so bad idea either, yeah ask around in a hospital or better put a advertisment at all hospital networks lol
Oh you liked my heisenbergs uncertainty idea?
Greetings,
Jeff
Yeah I like it. Got some questions though. I hope you can explain them in your view
I’ll sure will try lol
Jeff
Can only speak for myself. When I had an operation at the age of two. remember dreaming a kind of nightmare… I was running around a dim lit hospital chased by what appeared to be medical staff… So yeah people do dream when having cpmplete anaesthesia
whoa so I can accidentally kill myself while im sleeping?!! no selfhypnosis for me- if i can’t see anything im outta there!!
Yes Eric that is possible…with the old medication for surgery 10% of ppl even had hallucinations, while put under the medication.
Jeff
When I had my wisdom teeth surgery, I even attempted to WILD or even attempted to OBE, but the bad news is… I didn’t even remember falling asleep. I just was getting ready while they inserted that iv in me then next thing I knew was that I was waking up… everything was done. 
That scared me badly that I cried! I hate that forgetness experience. Yucky!
Well u didnt lose your wisdom Dm7 with it
Can imagine u didnt like that experience at all
There are many surgery medications, some make you lose consciousness and memory totally, others give to some hallucinations or dreams etc.
Because of those last category some found there way to the black market as psychedelic drugs.
Take care sister 
Jeff