Possible Holy grail Technique part II

[b] Part One can be found here: Part one
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Winamp doesn’t have any type of built-in speed change.

The speed of your brainwaves doesn’t affect how you interpret sound anyway, so it doesn’t matter. Think about it – right now, as you sit here reading your computer screen, your brain is not going at the same speed as it was when you clicked this topic, and yet the sound of your CPU fan, the cars outside, etc. don’t sound as though they have sped up or slowed down.

Hi!

Just wondering…

Isn’t there anyone around with the right skills to make, let’s say, one mp3 with the SL interview, starting on a very low loudness, slowly getting louder, so the listener doesn’t wake up. This mp3 could then be burned on a cd. On the same cd, you could burn an ‘empty’ mp3, of a certain length. This way, anyone with an mp3/mp3-cd player can try this method, not havong to use applescripts or things.

Anyone who is able to do that…??

JJJ

so this goes for 2 hours huh i am listening to it now, it is very soft damn i hope it isnt so soft back at my place :smile: very intersting though thanx a lot

Richard

Yeah not only can i do that but i can do a number of different things that i would like to try with the audio that i think might have somesort of effect on dreaming and whatnot.

Let me startoff by asking how long would everyone estimate that it takes them to fall asleep?

When I am doing some WILD exercises, maybe one hour, but normally (with not too many worries :wink: ) about 30 mins, I think…

Let’s make this thing fast, because saturday I am leaving to go camping for 3 weeks and I want to have it on my mp3 discman :grin: !!

Hope you can make something of it!! Succes!

JJJ

bump!

I’m trying this tonight. I converted it to WAV using winamp (11khz doesn’t play on my mp3 cd roadstar diskman) into a 44khz file (just so it will play).

I added an hour of silence using Cooledit and then converted to mp3 (vbr minimum 32 maximum 128) using BeSweet.

No positive results to report - it took me 2 hours to get to sleep (so I restarted the mp3 a few times). And I kept waking up before the interview began and everytime I was awake when it began. Don’t know why.

I’ll try again perhaps.

I tried it again. I recall hearing the interview (part of it) during a ND but it wasn’t that clear and I didn’t get lucid. After some minutes and more dreaming I woke up. Maybe it was too low volume and I should try a slightly louder volume so I actually take notice of it.

I am listening to this repeatedly throughout the night, but… I keep waking up just before the interview starts!

Could my subconscious want to avoid lucidity???

It’s not so much that your subconscious is avoiding lucidity - it’s just having to be reprogrammed to become lucid. This process can take a while. But for me, I simply can’t sleep with the interview going, it always wakes me up. :bored:

And it wakes me up before…

Tonight I watched Smallville, and in the episode Clark is having some dreams too… [Rosetta] Perhaps this will help me get an LD :cool:

Sage, I added 1 hr of silence before the interview starts. That way I go to sleep listening to nothing, then the interview beings while I’m asleep.

I’m going to try 15mins and 30mins of silence next.

I put the interview file on autorepeat.

I am noticing that in my dreams the exterior sound (the interview in this example) doesn’t filter down to the dream - I can’t hear the sound itself but there is somebody who’s complaining or just talking (the feeling is that of an annoying person).

External stimulus doesn’t always enter the dream directly. I mean, you won’t always hear the actual sound as it exists in real life, often it’ll get converted into something more relevant to the dream. For example, once while I was listening to the interview, I had a dream in which I was talking to Stephen LaBerge at a park near my house. He spoke of nothing that existed, word-for-word, in the interview itself, but his voice and the general conversation theme were clearly partial to the continuous sound playing from my speakers.

Occasionally however, after obtaining lucidity I can actually listen to the sound directly from its source. As an example, just recently I found myself in my apartment looking at a series of odd test tubes I had all around the place. My TV was on, and LaBerge was talking about how his dream self is merely his perceptual image (or something), and continued to explain how a dream isn’t bound to real life at all. I discovered that I was dreaming, and I noticed the sound coming from the TV was actually the recording playing from my CD player. I listened to it for a few minutes, paying careful attention to verify that it was actually piping in live.

Maybe you aren’t playing it loud enough to distinguish the actual words, and so your dreams are only incorporating the sound of conversation, and not the according topic of discussion?

I still use this technique about once a month or so. I give it about a one or two month rest period between uses. I think of it as like calling in the big guns to end any dry spells.

I don’t cycle fade the volume up and down anymore. I find instead, I can stop the wishing for silence irritation by leaving the speakers next to the computer ten feet away instead of next to my head. This way, it’s no more bothersome than as if someone had left a tv volume up.

To add some variety, I added 3 other dream expert interviews to the random que. They are not about lucid dreaming but they worked too. There are links to them near the bottom of my personal log of the experement. epicdewfall.ca/techniques.shtml

Probably that’s it… Thanks for pointing it out. I don’t use a very low volume, but it could be slightly higher. I’ll try that tonight. I use earphones.

Yesterday I slept with the interview looping (with 30 mins silence at the beginning, so I can fall asleep while the file plays). I dreamt of owning a new stereo [ connection with sound ], the police telling us not to stop at a petrol station (we wanted to get some petrol), a girl saying “we’re not like smallville”, plus I was giving some lecture at a girls’ factory… all without getting lucid.

So tonight I’ll try once more but I’ll raise the volume a bit more… see what happens.

I wasn’t sure whether I had raised it enough actually. No lucid dreams.

I also took 2 B complex pills of 41mg B6 and 50mcg B12, plus 2g Vitamin C.
Dream recall was zero… the opposite of what I expected. My dream recall was good before this night.

I woke up finding I must have unconsciously removed the earphones.
Does this happen to anyone?

Today I’ll only take 1 B complex pill.

I don’t have an MP3 player, and my computer is not in my bedroom, so I Put this on a cd to play next to my bed. I went to bed at 11:00 pm, and set my alarm for 4:30 AM for WBTB… I woke up at 4:30 to"run awayyyyy… run awayyyyy… run away and stay alive, run away, run awayyyyyy, run away if you want to survive"and I was like YES! I haven’t heard this song in FOREVER! anyway I went to the bathroom and read for a while then when I went back to bed I turned on the interview. Though I didn’t have any lucid dreams I recalled 3 very long very vivid dreams where I woke up, then realized I was dreaming about the interview. No real success though…I’m going to try it again tonight to see if I get any results… I have been in an LD dry spell for weeks and I’m beginning to forget what’s so great about LDs… know what I mean? :tongue:

This night I read this thread and all about auditory cues in the Laberge book Exploring TWOLD , and I put on my own mp3 telling me I’m dreaming, so it got incorporated as a flickering tv somehow…

This method worked once for me (sleeping with the interview playing) - it was great - however now it seems not to work and while I’m sleeping and the recording is playing, I don’t dream. As soon as I awake and remove the earphones, I start to dream and dream.

Would there be some reason why? Should I use a lower volume (which would probably be ineffective?)? Or should I use a different technique for the moment? Probably the latter…

I found another interview on dreams:

dream-analysis.com/dreams/dreams … 9102000.rm (rename the file from *.rm.ram to *.rm and you’re set)
(from: dream-analysis.com/dreams/dr … 102000.htm)

I haven’t heard it yet (might be something silly or whatever…:content: ) but I will try to loop it like the laberge interview mp3, just like epicdewfall did. I will convert it to mp3 so I can put it on my player.

I found it from this link on the same site:
dream-analysis.com/dreams/me … etails.htm