[NT] Welcome back Dm7!

:sad: She will be missed :sad:

On the other hand they took away her internet and even her dream journal, but they can never stop her from LDing.

It’s very sad that some people can be so small minded.

I have a good feeling that this not the last we hear from her. She will be back.

Yes no doubt she will be missed :crying: She’s one of the keyplayers on this forum and was always trying to help or giving good advice to others, and not only to newbies…
It’s a sad consequence of the general ignorance and misunderstanding of subjective phenomena like LDing or OBEing. If our civilization had a more spiritual foundation instead of our current materialistic everything-must-be-objectively-and-scientifically-provable-in-order-to-have-some-value, then these unfortunate conflicts wouldn’t occur.
However, her parents need to know that LDs are indeed scientifically proven, but they are not really known to the general public. It hasn’t got anything to do with occultism but instead LDs are used for thousands of years in peaceful buddhistic/hindu sects. Furthermore, the current scientific research has only come up with positive effects from LDing. LDs help you to overcome phobias, to heighten your level of creativity, to solve real life problems, to overcome nightmares. They can even help people with their studies. LDs can be of extremely importance for people who don’t have the luxury to travel for instance. In LDs you can live your wildest fantasies like flying, visiting far countries, … The only negative consequences of LDing could be the ignorant reaction of your environment to your practice.
Instead of being considered as an occult practice, LDing should be considered as a shining bright light in the dark, souring, intolerant and narrow-minded western society. I think that if everyone on this planet would be LDing, “peace” will finally become a word with meaning.
Can’t we make a petition or something like that to send to her parents? It’s just a thought… There are enough sites on the web to start a petition.
But I agree, she will be back!

:eek:

:sad: :nono: :crying:

that’s too bad…

thanks for posting that jeff, i’m glad she was able to tell you about it in time. I hope she can come back sooner or later - i hope her parents will see that depriving her of the things she loves won’t help their daughter.

hang in there DM7, we will meet you in your dreams :angel_fly:

You’re right Q. Let’s all learn to share our dreams, and say hi to DM7.

:happy:

Don’t worry DM7, they will turn around eventually.

Xenesis, Sealife is a another dream forum created by Explora. He is also here at this forum…i think he posted here about is so do search and typ explora and sealife and you probably can read about it.

Yes its true…this thread was not ment to get angry at her parents they dont do it to be a pest to her they do it from their believes and love for their daugther.
Still i find it very sad, but yes i know she will come through it all in time.
I hope also next year she will do fine at college!

Good idea PasQuale, in our dreams and thoughts we are with her :smile:
I just hope she does fine…at college as well as at home with her parents.

We wont forget you dm7 :smile: Ever!
HUgggggg!
And thanks for all your posts here at the forum and helping ppl!

Jeff

No one can stop DM7 from LDing, she’s just too powerful

dream journal will be a problem, but there is much she can learn and practice in dreamtime that will be of use when this is over

We will miss you!
Until then…

:angel_fly:

This can’t be true : :razz:
She’ll be missed greatly… :oh:

(this is a copy from the reply at Sea Life in case you make it here)

DM7 is 18 years of age and she has a natural ability to dream vividly. This gift occurs naturally and without effort. She is able to recognize the dream as to control her thoughts and actions within that state where most of us participate unconsciously and mechanically, whether we remember such actions in the morning or not. Her talent will remain with her forever, and her ability to act ethically and morally will pervade also in dreams.

Sealife and the “lucid dreaming for all” websites are a form of e-mail no different than a large social group with a variety of cultures, religions, and personalities. Living in isolation of society has negative consequences on the well-being of the individual and their ability to develop and adapt to the world and its people. E-mail is a nice way to get in touch with people in a busy world.

Get well DM7! :happy:
We will miss you

Very sad story indeed :sad: . DM7 is probably the most helpful person on this forum (besides Jeff of course), so she will be missed A LOT.

We shouldn’t blame her parents too much, I’m sure they do what they think is the best for their child. LDing is still very obscure in our society and it will take a long time and effort to change that fact. Fear of the unknown is what we all have to deal with, each one in its own way.

I’m absolutely sure she’ll be back, she’s too talented in this stuff to give it up and she’s too helpful to stay away from this forum. DM7, see you later - the sooner the better :smile:

personally if my parents had tried that at 18 i wouold have walked out the house and never looked back.

Since you’re legally an adult they can’t control you like that, if you don’t let them.

Very sad news, but i’m sure she will find her way bac sooner or later :smile: hoefully soon

Aww, thank you for your posts. It means a lot to me! I had to go to college once again to take care of something so I thought I should take an opportunity to use the computer lab here.

Thank you for your support. I appreciate it. I love helping people out here… I’ll make it up when I come back :wink:

Thanks again… it’s probably my last post for a while… so… thank you everyone… especially Q for this wonderful forum. Just make sure it still exist when I come back. :smile:

Hehee…you forum junkie.

Hope you sort the ‘problem’ out soon.
Compromise is a good thing.

Later.

r.f

HEY DM7, I wasn’t sure I would ever see you post again!!

If you’re reading this post…
are you allowed to use the computer lab before or after school? Or perhaps during breaks or even class time? :wink:

We’ll be seeing ya. Good luck.
Oh do your parents accept science? If they do, we could find a few nice articles for em to read…

I’m over with college so I can’t really use the computer lab for 3 weeks since it’s pretty far away from home.

I’ll be returning to college in around 3 weeks, so… hopefully I can find a way… :smile:

Thanks. Later dude!

cant you force them to read some articles supporting LDing before you give up?? wait!!

I am not saying that I gave up. I’m letting my parents do all the talk to waste their energy. That way I don’t waste my energy.

Plus, they’ll eventually realized that it’s who I am and they can’t change that. :grin:

Don’t worry. :smile: Jeff told me a lot of advices and it’s useful. :grin:

Well this sucks.

Dm7 is doing fine, thats all i can tell for now…
She said to me, sooner or later my parents have to accept me for who i am in relation to dreaming. :smile:

Freedom in our dreams for all of us :wink:

Jeff

Wait a sec.Are DM7’s parent’s Christian?I know they’re religious,but if they are Christian I have an online bible and I know how to use it!Actually,I have more than one so I could use a different bible if she had a different faith.Oh yeah,dreams are big in any religion.Prophets have a lot of dreams where they would talk to God and have experiences with her/him.

So if the parents are here,I’ll try not to offend,but have you actually read your bible!?!Because I promise you,every religion has had accounts of dreaming,lucid dreaming,and/or visions.You can not say that this is an occult practise.add petty insult here

And to DM7,I know you will read this someday.I hope you are able to have fun on your break,and I’m sure when you get back you have a lot to share with us.

DM7…gone…for a long time…but…WHAT?! :eek:

I really, really hope you’ll be able to get back on soon, DM7. This forum needs you. :content: I can’t count the times I’ve seen you give really helpful advice to me or anybody else on the forum who asks for it…I think we can all agree you’ve been a great asset to everbody. Besides that, its just fun to read your posts. :wink:

I hope your parents come through, or you find a way to get access to a computer soon, or something like that. It would be so great if everyone knew about lucid dreaming, but as always, so many people are afraid of what they don’t know about…Anyway, once they run out of energy, I’d suggest a full frontal assualt! :grin: Heh, well, in the form of scientific lucid dream articles or something. Keep your cool. :content:

Good luck!