I’m not a christian, but I’m still interested - would doing something bad in a LD still count as sinning? Because there’s no real consequence, but you’d still be taking pleasure in doing something you’re not supposed to. I’m not sure.
Excellent question. Actually, Christ talked a lot about the mind. He said that any action always begins in the mind, so what we think and meditate on can eventually work its way into our behavior.
Of course, not everyone who fantasizes about doing something acts on it. Still, our thoughts affect our character, our emotions, our attitude, etc. It’s something to consider.
Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with doing things in dreams that defy natural law (like flying). However, I have to remember that what I think affects things, even if they affect only me.
I am a Christian, and I have had many lucid dreams.
I agree with what Sage Goddess says.
My belief is that dreaming and lucid dreaming are wonderful gifts that we have been given by God. Just treat them with a Christian attitude as you would anything else in life.
Well said sleepyhead! 
Greetz,
Jeff
I’m am a Christian…I guess, though am kinda unsure. I have had many LDs, many amazing. You have forgotten the importance of dreams in the Bible. Was it not Gabriel who came to Mary (or was it her husband I forgot srry) in a dream to tell her that her son is the son of god, and is to be named Jesus. There’s all these other dreams too, even an OBE somewhere in there.
And, in a personal message to the original poster, I really think you shuold have a look at the torah/old testament and Jewdiasm. If yuo read it well, you’ll see that many of the Prophecies for the Messiah never came true, and that GOd can never come down in human form nor that anything in the Torah can be undone (for example all the laws, etc). LIke, did you know that if a women commits adultery, you are to take her to the city square and the villagers stone her to death. HOw the hell did it go from “Eye for an eye” to “if he hits yuo in one cheek, turn the other so he can hit it too” COndsider this, please, before you decide to be Christian. gtg, Ben
Ben: To clarify, Gabriel “visited” Mary to announce that she would give birth to Christ (from the text, it appears that she is awake during this visitation), whereas he appeared to Joseph in a dream to tell him the same thing.
And you are correct, dreams do figure prominently in the Bible.
One more thought …
This topic could easily degenerate into a fight. Let’s keep it friendly here, folks!
Ok, but consider this. Envy (ie. one of those infamous seven sins) is just a “thought-crime”, you don’t have to act upon it for it to count. So perhaps the act of thinking something can count as a sin.
Although to be honest, I don’t really care.
Actually, that was the point I was trying to make, that you don’t have to act on the thoughts for the thoughts to be wrong (i.e., sin).
Sorry … lack of sleep is keeping me from communicating well! 
There is nothing wrong with lucid dreaming at ALL…
there’s only one way i think it could be bad,… is if you lucid dream and purposly turn into a demon or something and go around killing people and torturing people because it brings you pleasure to do that…
doing that can mess up your mind,.
I dont think God would ’ punish ’ you for that thou,. because really in truth you are actually punishing yourself by wanting to do evil shyt like that…,because when you train your mind to think like that, you become a person that only thinks about themself and not others, which can cause you to be very ignorant, which will cause problems for you in life
I’m not Christian… but im pretty sure that Jesus himself had lucid dreams or OOBE s
cuz anyone who is so self aware as him, surely had a strong mind, and most likely did not have normal dreams…
here’s a thought… lucid dream, and meet Jesus,. or any God of your realigion, whatever religion you are,… it will help you have a more personal relationship with God… which will help you understand what God is: everything…
Yes.
I think it’s just we’ll be more … I don’t know how to put this. But If we keep to our normal ideals-whatever they are even though you’ve got more “powers” and opportunities it can be a road to grace.
by the way I’m a Roman Catholic, attend church and try to improve… normally failing . But I know God loves everyone so let’s live and let live.
I’m glad of the chance to be a witness. I never thought I would be brave enough.
tupid: 
The way i see it, it will be better to fullfill your evil deads while dreaming than doing it in real life, i dont see any prople letting go of your frustrations while you are dreaming. It is better to do “evil” stuff in your dream and wake up and never think about doing the stuff you did in a dream
Well … we all think about things we never actually do …
But then again, there are very few people sitting in jail who didn’t fantasize about their evil deeds first before actually doing them.
Sometimes destructive thoughts have a way of growing into monsters and getting control of you. Just something to consider.
And I’m not saying you think about things that you should be put in jail for. Just making a point.
thats what im tryin to say,.
also… we DO have the ability to lucid dream, and astral project,…
so why would God give us these gifts if he din’t want us to use it?
We have the ability to murder and rape etc … so why would God give us these “abilities” if he din’t want us to use them?
See thats not a valid argument 
“the gift to murder etc” is really the gift of free will. Otherwise we would not be able to freely turn to him or not -as the case may be.
It’s true its better to do bad actions in dreams rather than in real life.
And we can’t really judge and condemn anyone for what they do.
GOD IS THE ULTIMATE OVERSEER.
p.s. this is a good thread away from everything else to discuss civily these opinions and beleifs. (Sorry for the bad spellings but I’ve only just woken up.
Hang on a second… All these people afraid of LDing because they are afraid that sinning in their dreams will be counted against them. But If they are good people then they would not want to sin and there would be no reason to be afraid. Sorry if this makes no sense, I know what I’m trying to say 
It implies that anyone who is afraid of sinning in LDs is a bad person because they think that they might sin. Surely if they are a good person then they wouldnt want to in the first place. That make any more sense??
I think the original poster was concerned that LDing itself was sinful. I think the consensus is that LDing itself is neutral but there is concern about violating one’s conscience or morals within a dream, whether that amounts to sin or not.
As for being afraid of sinning within an LD … well … I don’t know if I’d call it “afraid.” Let’s say “cautious.” Everyone is tempted! 
Believing in a certain religion or moral code does not exempt you from sometimes wanting the very thing you think is wrong. I speaketh from experience. 
It’s the human condition, my friend.
I think that the only way of seeing lucid dreaming as a sin from Christian perspective is as you c it as an occult phenomenon!
But in the bible is verry well explained what is occult and what not.
Infact lol if you take that literal then even science is an occult study!
Jeff
Wow!, i cant believe i just read that, i wasnt offended or anything, but i thought we are in a new day age of thinking. Its 00’s, i think relgion is overrated or over…oh-yeah…please dont be offended off that last remark i made 
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