Meditation while lucid dreaming

Hi, i’m new to this forum. I was brought her by a friend i talk with online (mIRC), Xetrov. We talk a lot about LD, OBE, and Shamanism spirituality. I am Cherokee Native, and I am currently going full speed on my studies with Shamanism.

Last night, Xetrov and I planned on meeting in the world of Lucid Dreaming. My lucid dreams\concentration\meditation goes like this:
(Xetrov wasn’t able to have a LD)

First before I attempted the lucid dream, I went into a meditation technique(shamanic technique) which involves raising and lowering
body heat. Very relaxing. Which was what i was going for, relax my mind and clear my thoughts before i went lucid. After i was finished with my meditation i opened the window (my body temp. was high at that moment) and layed down in my bed, with my hand close to the opening of my window, getting fresh air + wind circlulation. I went through my MILD, which including the thoughts of xetrov and a thought of a meeting place.

The second i fell asleep i went lucid right away, i had a mission. and i wasn’t about to waste time. I came in LD in my living room. (i normally start there for some reason…) I walked around, fully clothed, and i was still very hot. I sat down in my chair (i had just recently moved around my living room, but in my LD it was as it was before. The change wasn’t in effect in my LD. thought i’d mention that :content: ). As i was sitting in my chair. At that moment i knew right away i had to get started. So i thought to myself, “Ok, I AM going to find Xetrov now.” I continued with that, closed my eyes and the first thing that came to my mind, was a place that i have been to before, in a dream, not in LD. I opened my eyes and i was in that same place, there are no walls, no sky, no mountains, no form of earthly sites at all… Nothing to see at all. I didn’t look at the ground, so i am not sure. Never the less, I was in a place that was not dark, not light, nothing to look at. I looked around abit, looking at where i was, trying very hard to figure out where i was. A small boy, at age between 7-12 i would guess came. I didn’t see him come, but i felt him there. I tried to speak with him, he did not answer, i asked his name and he did not answer. He barely even turned his head to see who i was. He walked away, in a normal fashin. I did not proceed to fallowing him. Instead i sat myself down again. At this point while i was waiting, I started thinking about things in my real life. I thought about work, a girlfriend, my friends, and i thought about when XETROV was going to show up, or contact me. Over an hour approx has passed. I got extremely bored, so i thought to myself, that i could try to make things interesting, I hovered abit, flew around. As time went by, while i was hovering around, i fell on the ground the second a thought came into my mind. that thought was this “Why not try meditation now?”. So i did that, i gathered 4 candles around me (as i would do in real life), but thought that i could use a real fire for the same and\or better effect. So i brought that right infront of me, I could feel the heat hitting my face, my skin was tightening. It was a great feeling of wormth. I prepared myself (just as i do in real life) for a meditation which calls upon nature, connects you with all living things (a meditation i have just recently been able to achieve). This type of meditation is a great feeling, sends waves of energy threw your entire body, like the seas water coming and going on the shore. yes, anyway, i did this for of meditation, and i felt the energy, but not as strong as it is in real life. As i tried harder and harder to get deeping into the meditation i opened my eyes (part of the meditation, opening your eyes ever 2 minutes or so, slightly\slowly) i saw myself sitting by the fire and meditating. I was extremely confused! I didn’t know what to think, i was already lucid dreaming, in almost complete awearness. Yet, i go further some how, like i am watching myself, watching myself… in a dream.

This was my must clearest LD i have ever had in my entire life.
It lasted approx 2.5 to 3 hours long.
My question, if anyone could help me… While i was meditating while lucid dreaming, why is it that i saw myself yet once again? and when i woke up from my lucid dream, i wasn’t able to move. I wasn’t sleep paralysed. It was far more extreme than that, i couldn’t move my eyes nor could i breathe at will, and i was completely awake. it took around 15-20 seconds before i could move. My eye position did not change from the time i couldn’t move, to the point where i could move.

any help? what happened?
Thanks alot
litefoot. (aka bustah)

Hi litefoot, wow sounds you are a quite an experienced shaman. I am impressed by that body heat technique, has it anything to do with the Naropa Yoga of “Psychic Heat”? Meditation in LD is a very powerful tool it speeds up the proces alot. About that seeing your self in meditation, dit you ever head of “witnessing”? This basic witnessing involves being present for whatever arises, but simultaneously detached from it and is often used in vipasana meditation. I read an article which mentioned it, here it is: sawka.com/spiritwatch/gotoa.htm
I hope this is of any help.

Æzen

Thanks a lot, the link was a great help. I’ll try this more often. Mostly curious about the whole thing is that my meditation in LD was what point me into ‘witnessing’. I know a lot of forms of meditation, i will continue to meditate in LD, and keep you updated with the results. I am also still curious what i was paralysed when i woke to. completely. I will have to do some more research on that :content:

Yes, Psychic Heat. It’s exactly the same. Shamanic, and Yoga. One of the first types of meditation i learned. Pyschic heat is the easiest to achieve. Psychic cool, is another story. I am still working on it, and i am doing great so far. :content:

Thanks again for your help. I hope i will get more responces on this post.

Welcome Bustah :smile:
I been up all night i go to bed now…busy day lol but tomorrow i will answer your post!

Greetings Bustah Lite feet :wink:

Sleep well and I hope you meet Xetrov at a ld crosspoint!

Jeff

Yeah Jeff maybe u can drop by and we can have a lucid beer ey? :happy:

Good idea xetrov :smile:

Jeff