Lucid dream/alpha meditation

bubobubo · August 28, 2003, 12:22pm

This may be a stupid question but I’m going to ask anyway…
what’s the difference, in the end, between a lucid dream and alpha meditation?
Having never managed either, from the outside and a beginner’s point of view, it sort of looks as if the end result so to speak is very similar if not the same.
Anyone??

Jack · August 28, 2003, 7:24pm

Ive never experienced alpha meditation state but i let myself guess that lding has much more powerfull features.It includes real life clear picture,sounds,smells and even tastes…it also contains a lot of suprises all given in a form as it is really happening.
I think lding is just more sophisticated way of meditating…and i guess it can also serve different purposes(did anyone have orgasms during alpha mediation?

bubobubo · August 29, 2003, 8:37am

From your description, then I HAVE had lucid dreams. I could still feel the effects of one for hours after I got up. I can never concentrate enough to meditate properly, but I’m trying.

Jeff · August 29, 2003, 1:33pm

Bubobubo…i do also alpha meditating and first you have to be at the top level of this or your just a bit relaxt not more then that.’
But if you indeed are capable of creating great amplitudes of alpha waves you can enter a dream with full consciousness from it …but then it aint alpha meditating anymore because then you also got theta waves.
In dreams theta waves next to alpha waves play a big part of the brain eeg.

So there is a big difference between those to…but alpha meditating can be a bridge to a ld experience…that is true for those who are really talented!

Greetz,
Jeff

Pixelmonster · August 29, 2003, 9:55pm

…uhmmm that sounds interesting!!
where can i learn it?

clarkkent · October 3, 2003, 5:18am

I was reading how various forms of prayer involve alpha waves - charismatic prayer, the rosary, the liturgy of the Mass, etc…

WaNnAbE · October 3, 2003, 6:15pm

I do so wish someone would explain this whole “waves” thing to me.

Well, obviously I’m not that interested, otherwise I’d look it up myself.

clarkkent · October 3, 2003, 7:25pm

I think they are different states, depending upon what you do, whether you are sleeping etc.

mystic · October 4, 2003, 11:28am

Here’s a brief description of the brainwaves:

Our mind regulates its activities by means of electric waves which are registered in the brain, emitting tiny electrochemical impulses of varied frequencies, which can be registered by an electroencephalogram. These brain waves are known as:

Beta: emitted when we are consciously alert, or feel agitated, tense, afraid, with frequencies ranging from 13 to 60 pulses per second in the Hertz scale.

Alpha: when we are in a state of physical and mental relaxation, although aware of what is happening around us. Its frequencies are around 7 to 13 pulses per second.

Theta: more or less 4 to 7 pulses, it is a state of somnolence with reduced consciousness.

Delta: when there is unconsciousness, deep sleep or catalepsy, emitting between 0.1 and 4 cycles per second.

In general, we are accostumed to using the beta brain rythm. When we diminish the brain rythm to alpha, we put ourselves in the ideal condition to learn new information, keep fact, data, perform elaborate tasks, learn languages, analyse complex situations. Meditation, relaxation exercises, and activities that enable the sense of calm, also enable this alpha state. According to neuroscientists, analyzing electroencephalograms of people submitted to tests in order to research the effect of decreasing the brain rhythm, the attentive relaxation or the deep relaxation, produce significant increases in the levels of beta-endorphin, noroepinephrine and dopamine, linked to feelings of enlarged mental clarity and formation of rememberances, and that this effect lasts for hours and even days. It is an ideal state for synthetic thought and creativity, the proper functions of the right hemisphere. As it is easy for the hemisphere to create images, to visualise, to make associations, to deal with drawings, diagrams and emotions, as well as the use of good-humour and pleasure, learning is better absorbed if these elements are added to the study methods.

If you want more in-depth descriptions of the brainwaves, check this site: multidimensions.com/con_body_states.html