How about, “A world without suckers is like an empty box of lollipops.”
well i am in total agreement with I_G. for good reason. i too have seen tehy videos and the only one that maybe made me think was the pen. the otehrs were fake 4 sure. sorry people but open your eyes.
I am after saying that i beliver in the psychic. I too have done some things with minds, like reading. but i haev no skill with TK. I would be very thankful if someone could point me 2 a website where they have been and have success or if you could tell me how it was done.
I feel pity for all the people in the world that are true psychics, the fakes ruin it and scam people.
Very sad
Sorry to break the news, but there is no such thing as telekinisis (for now atleast). How can I prove that there isnt, easily. There’s this millionaire, I forget his name, but he publically says that he will give 1 million dollars to anyone who proves that they are psycic. How many people have proven anything? ZERO. If you ask a “psycic” why, they’ll say it’s not abuot the money, so WHY DON’T THEY TAKE THE MILLION BUCKS AND LIKE GIVE IT TO STARVING CHILDREN!!! See, no one has telekinisis, because if they did they would go to this guy, and take the million dollars. I am not saying it doesn’t exist, just doesn’t exist now. Sorry, Ben
I’m sorry, but I have to agree with ben7 on this one. Urie Gellar (the famous telekentical spiritual guy) clamed to have found oil for big big companies. A researcher did his research and found that only one company, out of all the companies clamed by him, hired him and that he had had no success.
I will however beleive that we can somehow contact each other, not mind reading, but more like being on a network of mines. But this is going of topic onto the spiritual topic.
Technodreamer 
P.S: However, I will not ever come to a decition on anything untill I proven to myself it doesn’t work or I don’t like it. I am not being fooled or eluded, but after reading, these are opinions or biast facts. I want solid, unmanipluted facts. So I will read, and report back, on what information about TK I find. I neither believe it, as in my last mail. I want to focus on LD more.
Why do you need unproven TK when you have scientifcly (with the facts) proven LD. You can, infact, do more with LD. 
Technodreamer
well, if you could do TK in waking life…it’d be cool. i’d do it in waking life and while dreaming if i could
I think the Website is crap. I don’t understand all this secrecy. If I knew it existed and could do it I would be showing people the TK powers trying to prove and teach them it.
However, I have to say, that although most people don’t beleive in it, they neither beleive in LD. They are more accepting of LD and willing to give it a shot because it doesn’t seem unscientific. Do you think your friends would beleive in LD or OBE and SD more? Or neither? (<- Not a retorical question) Do people agree or am I an ass hole?! 
I was wondering, if you beleive something hard anough (I really mean very very believing) could you halucinate what you want to see?
Technodreamer
I found scientific fact on the web about TK. It was about an equation. This information is not what I want. But here it is https://jamesaconrad.tripod.com/TKpress-release-Aug4-03.html
lol all nthat is tru ben 7 bar one thing. you see that all the fakes in the world are the ones that tell every body. I mean look at it this way. say i had real psychic powers, i could read all your minds and i could tk and blah lah blah. waht would happen when i proved it… hm let me see there would be a great deal of research that would be conducted on me. I would lose my life and freedom. i would be labeled a freak and probally shot or somthing.
You remember the people taht had lets say 6 toes instead of 5… lets burn them at the stake. ok times have changed but not much. we still label freaks people taht are diffrent from the norm. we make them feel like it is a problem.
Not even for 1 million dollors would i give up my life my freedom and my respect
Umm no, I don’t think so…people would worship, respect you. And you could use the money to buy 100 body guards, plus, if what you say is true (which it isn’t) don’t you think the cause is great enough to sacrifice you not being a freak!!!
timeless always spells “that” as “taht” he’s a freek burn him… burn him at the stake…
but humour aside everything Timeless said is true.
While they may not sacrifice them for being evil demons, their personal lives would be ruined.
It would either be paparatzi wanting to see more, fans wanting to see somet special, religious zealots trying to kill them from being demons.
basically your life is ruined no different to famous people. They maye have all the money in the world but i bet you most of them would give it all up just to be out of the spot light even for a day.
This has to be one of the most sensible replies I’ve heard so far. True, you’d gain a lot of unwanted attention if you were found to be capable of telekinesis, but I don’t think you’d be ridiculed. Firstly, the scientific community (while running around with their arms flailing) would be sure to conclude that the particular specimen was in no way unique. All you have to do is make it clear that everyone is capable of this power, and suddenly you no longer have slanderous terms thrown at people demonstrating control of the ability.
It would NOT be like X-Men, with people furiously offended by those who happen to have this particular power. Instead, we’d witness a new understanding of humanity. Scientists would be scrambling to discover the physical mechanism making it possible, and our way of life would change drastically forever.
This is all clearly a pipe-dream though. Nobody today can demonstrate this power, because it doesn’t exist. It doesn’t work logically, and evidence thus far holds the phenomenon somewhere between ‘fantasy’ and ‘scam’. Sure, people might be afraid to come forth if they suspect they’re life will become nothing but test after test, but seriously now, not a single documented case of telekinesis - ever?
The imagination is far more capable than the person it works for - not everything is real.
voimind58 is my aol/aim sn if u missed it earlier, pm me if u wanna talk about tk.
anyway id lik to thank all you skeptics who posted on here. i really respect your opinions and reasons for saying the things u said. if it werent for you guys there wouldnt be any1 keeping our world safe on the ground. I just gotta say that i hope tk stays a quiet relatively unknown phenomenon and never becomes a big quick trend(use a dictionary if u dont know the difference between trend and phenomenon). I think our country will have an ok time dealin with high gas prices for a lil while than if large amounts of people changed their lifestyle and working time to try bending spoons with their mind if tk was proven to be real. If not that then think about how much casinos would start losing when people use tk to change the odds on crapps or roulette. Or if bad people started using it for sum evil purpose. It would do good to our world, but dont turn back on the fact that people always have a way to f**k up the good things in life. Change IS the most stressful thing in the world, if you like sum kinda scientific proof i use that to base my opinion that tk should not become a trend or possible phenomenon on a large scale if proven real, but if it is u know itll prolly head in that direction anyway. Sorry for u fellow believes i hope u dont think im betrayin u in anyway but i just think things better stay the way they are for now until things start becoming safer to exploit. “when pigs fly” or “when pigs are shot outta cannons cus they cant fly” we’ll never know.
I don’t really beleive but no one had proves or disproved it to me. I was thinking, could you use your powers to protect you from ridicule. You could keep them away from you, or levitate them. Then you really would become a demond.
If the Holographic universe thery is right (Someone says about this in a topic) then you would be able to do TK and much more. The thery is that reality is a hologram and that we are one contious or something. I get it wrong everytime, but I sorta understand it. No RL, no minds, just one big info bank.
Technodreamer
Those who believe in telekenesis, raise my hand.
that is actually really easy, anyone here can do it.
– Grabs Xetrov’s wrist and raises his hand.
I am not saying they are all psychos. I think there are a few of them who actually believes they have this power. Remember that psiwheel and such is very sensetive to airstream/heat, you dont need much wind for it to spin.
But those videos are indeed faked on purpose.
yea i dont like that psipog site much either especialy since they banned me. The only video on that thing i think is real is the paper pinwheel one, but thats only because i can do the same thing and it looks lik that(plz dont make a comment telling me i really cant and its just the wind or sumin, i already know thats wut ull think and i already thought ahead and did the same skepticism on it myself just merely accept that sentence as a simple opinion).
Oh and IG i know spoon bending is easy and stuff i just use that cus its the most common ability affiliated with tk, i guess if i said they were trying to slide the spoon across a table that woulda been more accurate to my message. Which is that tk is usually a waste of time. It will only not be a waste of time if the user strengthens it to a point were it becomes useful. And that takes a long time.
Umm by the way “Any question or wonder you have possesses an answer you can get, you only have to seek it” so if you want to you could find out the truth behind tk urself and not take the word of scientists or laws of science, which by the way are never definite they are just the most recent beliefs. And dont take the word of “psychos” on “how to be psychic” sites. A lot of those people dont know what they are talking about.
just follow my quote.
Ive done it.
Ive done it a few times actually and it is a really sweet experience. When I did it I wasnt able to see it or anything, I just felt a pulsating ball in my cupped hands. This I figured could be because of 2 reasons;
- Yeah there is Chi, Ki, Qi, or whatever you may want to call it. And it is real.
- You ‘program’ your brain to believe there is some kind of a force cupped in your hand, and then it makes you feel that imaginary force.
Either way it is a cool experience.
I also think that psipog is a bunch of snobs who think they are better than others. And just look at the rules for the chat, to list a few: Do not talk about Ki ->Kick/ban, No religious or spiritual debates … etc. need i mention why most of the rules are retarded.
I looked at that site, and at the top of the media section notice it says it’s NOT to convince people, but to help learners. I know psychic ability is real because there is just so much evidence for it, I watched a documentary on the History channel about the CIA’s Stargate program (google it), and most of all, my sister was psychic. But this site I have my doubts about. There are many people on the forums talking about what they’ve done to just be 2 or 3 dudes putting up a hoax, but you never know. Also I was reading an article on starmen.net about psychic ability in the real world and how it compares to some old game called Earthbound. Whoever was writing the article claimed to be able to create a visible PSI ball, and months later, someone on the starmen.net forums claimed to be moderately psychic from what he learned at psipog, and that’s how I originally found out on the site.
So my stance is:
Psycic ability = real
PsiPog = may or may not be real, but probably not