Thats great man, I can’t wait to hear her reaction. She has no right to be angry at you for righting this, yet you know she will. I hate people who try to supress expression.
Er, you might as well hate me then, in a way I’m trying to supress her opinion, so it’s a battle of the opinions. She took another day off, so it’s tomorrow. I bought a new MP3 player/fm tuner/fm recorder/VOICE RECORDER so I might upload it to our briefcase…
You didn’t supress anything, you simply spoke out against HERs.
Infection, I completely understand your indignation. I hate how all these american teachers are about “fun” and “interactive.” I mean…everything is fun now adays. School is fun. Work is fun. Learning is fun. Play is fun. Fun is fun…the word has truly lost it’s meaning. But I’m sorry to admit…I do disagree with your take on her “shut-up” policy. What it comes down to is respect, and another student’s right to not hear the word shut-up, a word many somehow consider disrespectful/offensive. Though…her approach to dealing with it is bizarre…rerouting resources and time for a minor little word. She should just be more honest with the class. And if she is your english teacher, why not devote a class period to the “bad” words in society, and why they are what they are. Has she even told the class why? Let me ask you this…why do you think the school is against it?
They prohibit it because they think “shut up” is offensive. However, “Satan” would be offensive to some people and “God” would also be offensive to some people. I did make a point to write that anything can be offensive, so only words that the majority objects to should be abolished. Oh by the way, she is the only teacher in school that prohibits this. When you say “shut up” to the principal she’ll just lecture you about manners. My former PE teacher kept saying “what the hell?” and “seagull shit (we get a lot of that around here)” and no one complained one teeny little bit. Well, then he also found a porno mag on the floor and put it in his pocket. That was hilarious.
Ah, good memories. He was the best teacher to ever teach to us. In my opinion, teachers should be more on the students’ level. Her ideas are very “right wing” to us.
?, what threat of punishment. They can’t touch you, and unless you know you are guilty, I wouldn’t attened any form of “punishment”. I agree, some school teachers act like they have power. But don’t forget, you have the same rights as them (if not more protecting you), and if any teacher told me that “shut up” was a swear word, then I would tell them to shut up. lol.
Sutch poor treatment to the student, I would demand the teacher appologises to me, or at least acknolage that “requiring” (as you say) to speak a presentation out infront of the class to do with behavoir is not part of that educational subject and wastes ‘quality’ (sarcasm) education time in mine and the classes.
I also noticed that you vere (in my opinion) of the main subject a little when you complain she gives you low grades undeservingly. You went from beliefs to views (opinions), be sure to distinguishe the two clearly. Again, she should not be grading Histroy work on creativity all the time. But your presentation is about why not to use the “s” word. Not why she should not mark you on creativity.
If I were you, I wouldn’t write a letter at all. I would simply say that it is my beleif that saying Shut Up is OK, and that you are offened that she is punishing you for your beleifs. You then go on to make her appologies infront of the whole class.
Sorry if I offened any teachers here. lol.
hmm thanks for your thoughts. I guess I’ll have another revision because my teacher somehow isn’t back yet…
oh yeah: if you say your teacher slapped you and your teacher says you slapped her (no witnesses) seriously you’ve just got expelled.
Realy, you live in the USA. Dunno about the US, but expelling in the UK goes through the school authority and expelling a student is usually rejected. And if you do get expelled for an unfiar reason, you can go to the authorities and sort it out in cort. Basiclly Englandish schools don’t have much control over their students, but they act like it. Not many students in the UK relize this.
yeah you can always appeal but it’s quite a long process. Many teachers (where I live) have it in their head they can control you however they want. In my old middle school, people always used to hang out at the 7-11 across the street, so they actually sent authorities there and gave out detentions just like they would on campus.
I couldn’t agree more. The problem is so many people ignore the fact that words are nothing more than the byproduct of vibrating vocal chords. They move the air around them and produce sounds that are picked up by the ear. Those sounds only form words and ideas when you are led to understand what they “mean” over a period of time. They really don’t mean anything at all, it’s only your mind’s eye that forms a picture or an opinion of what the word means based on how you’ve been raised. Take someone who doesn’t speak english, or understand it at all. You could casually say every “cuss word” known to man to them, but toning it as a question, and they would have no idea. They would think you were asking a question. I can’t understand how someone can be offended by hearing a so-called “dirty word.” There is no such thing as a dirty word. Every word should be as treasured as the next because language is a very beautiful art. Did you know that “pants” was considered a ‘dirty word’ in France in the 1800’s? Ridiculous, huh? Just as ridiculous as our ‘cuss words.’ Say them enough and they’ll lose all meaning.
cool, a little like my plan my teacher made me write lines two pages! (both sides of one pice of paper) for forgetting my PE kit i had to write
i must remember to bring in my pe kit
so i thought well she’s not gonna read all of it is she? so in the middle of the page i wrote stuff like:
i must remember remember the 5th november
i must remember to eat my PE kit
i must remember to bring in a chainsaw to kill teacher
i must remember to coat this paper in pee and leave it to dry before handing it in
I have a sad IT teacher who will read the whole thing to make sure it’s correct! I don’t mind the long proccess, they can’t expell me until then. Also, I wouldn’t take a detension off of the school site (or “campus”), they no longer have responsability for me.
I think the answer to infection0’s problem is simple. Forget the paper, cause if your teacher really is as bad as she sounds, she’ll find something wrong with it and make your write another one on why those papers are wrong. Instead, just ask her, “Why write a paragraph for saying shut up?” You can offer your points, she can offer her’s, and instead of trying to embarrass her, which wont get you anywhere, you can have a civilized debate. Maybe even get a whole class debate organized over this if you want.
And by the way, waiting for her to come back so you can do this right after her surgury in hopes that it will come as more of a shock to her is disgusting. If you really wanted to solve this problem, you’d act better than that.
Wow, that sounds like a speach.
Personally, I would demand she appologise to me for trying to punish me for her beleifs against mine. She owes you an appology. The most likley problem is that she will not act civilized towards a student. Only decent people show the deserved respect, and the minority left (or majority depenant on where you live) treat students badly because they like this feeling of power (makes me laugh) or don’t like a teacher’s job.
Don’t write a speach, she will simply say “do it again” and your efforts will feel unapreciated. Make her appologies or ignore her.
Sometimes teachers are so aragant, that embarsing them is the only way, it makes them shut up and listen. But this is rarly the case.
I also here stories where teachers delibratley find ways to tell off people. If this ever happened to me I think my parents would be complaining up at the school.
It goes in a vishous cycle, Teacher punishs student, student behaves worse, teacher punishes student… This seems to be the way, I can’t think of a solution, there is always one person who causes trouble.
I didn’t mean a speach. I meant like, talking your problems out. Its always worked for me.
Sorry, I meant you phrased your post so well it sounded like a speach. I know you didn’t mean a speach. I would also want an appology, that’s what I consider important.
I’ve never seen a teacher apologize to a student yet. If she does it will be a first.
Oh, cool. I guess thats good thing, the speach resembling quality of my comments that is. 
And I guess I’d probably want an apology too, if that sorta problem got REALLY out of controll.
And Learjet, thats sucks, cause I’ve seen teachers apologize for uneccessary silly things. Not a lot mind you, but still, at least some teachers go to the lengths they need to have a good student-teacher relationship.
I think the bigger issue here is the fact that you didn’t write it. Sure you can read that big long thing out in class to her, but what’s the pride in it? What do you think will happen between her and the teacher who really wrote it? I think you should throw it away and write your own ideas, that way if you do get in worse trouble at least it will be of your own accord.
I agree on the little things. Wasn’t what I had in mind though.