the big Spirit Guide topic

Okay, This was realy interresting thread. Yes, The trick is to know your own subconcious. The way it work. And as Confusion said: The mind can be stubborn. That is soo true. Can’t you feel it, when you are creating a thing out of thin air, working against you?

when i was in my first ld my spirt guide was just in the room :confused: :confused: :confused: and she said she was my spirt guide

I once read that spirit guides come to you when THEY feel you are “ready” to receive them. Please don’t get discouraged as I have called and gotten no answer.

I have encountered beings that I believed were spirit guides… some that came when I called and some that showed up on their own.

When I want to see a spirit guide, verbally or mentally I will ask for my spirit guide of “pure white light” (I do this because, as with everything else in life, there are “false” spirit guides). If you are lucid and a threatening entity/person approaches… think of your hands/body as being encased in protective white light and you can destroy them with a touch. Good to know! :smile:

One more thing, a spirit guide need not take the form of a person… one of my spirit guides was an animal!

Is it possible that you have a bit of doubt in your mind which is actually preventing you from meeting your spirit guide(s)?

All you gotta do is listen and given half a chance, they’ll pipe and and talk your ear off :content: So I either have multiple-personality-disorder, or a spirit guide helping me out. I prefer thinking of it as the latter heh. They’ll surprise you too, have you think of things you would have never ever thought of on yer own. Some of them think theyre very funny hehe yes you James :content:
Ralph

I think Dreamscape is correct in that if you generally will have difficulty with materializing people and objects at will in lucid dreams, you’ll probably come across the same problem as summoning a spirit guide.

What usually helps me is to focus on a dark, ambigious spot in the place I’m at while LDing and imagaing a person there. Then turn you’re attention away, and look back a few moments later.

The last time I did that when asking for a “spirit guide”, 3 men appeared running towards me, and urging me to follow them. I woke up before I got anywhere, but atleast something appeared.

My other encounters with my “spirit guide” was unintential and not asked for.

Especially the first time I was introduced when he hit me so hard in the stomouch that I immediately woke up. I suppose I should be grateful because I was in a nightmare with a serial killer behind me in the car.

His only introduction was over the radio saying "This is your soul " and then proceeded to knock me awake.

Ive heard there are different spirit guides.

Human and animal.

I dont know what my animal spirit guide looks like. Im getting a sense that it might be a bear, my main one that is.

Ive read what their qualitys are and i think the bear had leadership, loner, protective and strong. They fit me :smile:. I also admire the bears, great powerfull muscle machines. Who knows, it might be a frog or something. I havent met them.

There are supposed to be different ones for different stages and situations in your life.

The thing that interests me is the shadow guide. Its the dark side of yourself, you have to prove yourself to it before it lends you any help. Im getting a sense that the “monster” thats following me in my dreams is that. Hopefully i will be able to confront the thing one day… one day… :neutral:

What is even more interesting to me is the cause of a spirit guide. I wonder whether spirit guides are internal or external. Personally, I feel that they are internal manifestations of our experiences. However, I have not met mine yet so I can’t say one way or the other with evidence.

Hi
Just short question of definition:
To me,a dreamguide is a “normal DC”,someone who was created from your subcounciousness to lead you in your dreams.
A spirit guide is more something like a guardian angel,a non-human being that helps you to find your way.I don´t know if i believe in that,however.
To you make that difference?

I think your dreamguide always looks like you expect him to be.Your spirit guide probably would appear in in a way that makes it easy for him to communicate with you.So,that also depends on you and can change.

Traumgänger

I also often wondered whether spirit guides are coming from ones inner or subsconscious or have a reality outside of oneself.

But, assuming they are coming from one’s subconscious or inner self, then one may have to conclude that they run deeper inside of us than we can imagine.

From my own experience, a ‘dream’ character’ that can make me cry and overwhelms me with love with the slightest touch of a hand, deserves my attention, whether originating from inside or outside of me.

It makes me feel that in the end, the whole question may not matter so much.

Uh, I think it’s pretty hard to draw the line between internal and external reality.

Regardless which theory we believe in there are profits out of having one:
1.Internal(subconciousness)-asking right questions can give usinteresting answers coming from the sourse we dont often have handy.And it stores everything,even things we dont realize we have.
2.externall(spirituall)-would be great if it was the truth.Answers are priceless.
just my two cents:)

I’ve put a post relevant to this topic in the Dream Diary section.

wow Aitun that sounds incredible. I’m definately going to try this when I finally get my next lucid dream. On a real drought at the moment.

spirit is such an abstract idea. you have a spirit, whether it be a being or an essence within you.
your spirit is guiding you. when your in high spirits you do kind things, when you’re in low spirits you hit people with hammers. so in truth, you kind of are you’re own spirit guide.
also, when themes regarding dream control and manifestation come up you hear alot of having to be able to trick you’re mind. tricking yourself in this context seems to equate bulls**ting yourself.
i would simply use my mind to do such things.
optical illusions are tricks to the mind.

I met my spirit guide or whatever he is in waking life and then I met him in my dreams. Now when I have an LD I usualy seek him out first thing. I always sort of figured that he was my dream guide too but maybe not. We seem to have an um… interesting relationship in dreams.
I’ve had afew other recurring DCs but I haven’t asked them who they are yet… maybe next time.

You met him IRL? I don’t understand.

I wonder who I’d see if I were to call out for a Spirit Guide in a LD. I still have to try it.

I met him in meditation sort of. He didn’t come walking down the street or anything although that would have been cool!

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I’ve met my spirit guide, she is a dikini, and has been with me since the beginning. Allways aiding me in my search.
Shes pretty cool. She doesnt get upset, unless I am hurting in some way.

It wasnt really a question of me finding her, it was just she appeared.
Usually most people say that you meet your spirit guide when you begin to imagine that you are protected, by beings of some form or other.
Actually maybe not even that, in fact, it just came with my training.

It is a very abstract concept I agree, but many artists used dreams for their music. Billy Joel, Paul McCartney… these are just a few.

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I wonder, how can you meet you spirit guide in meditation? Because, I have met him once, I think it was him. But it was not a real person.
When I asked for him, he appeared as a cloud of light. It was very beautiful, but I was frightened too, because I had never seen anything like that before, I also felt emotions. I was so stunned about what I saw, that I woke myself. I felt myself laying in bed, in REM, so I tried to move a finger and got out of the dream. Then I decided to try one more time. And again I went lucid and asked for him. Again the hole dream stopped and I saw the cloud around me filled with light and emotion. As stupid as I am, I was confused again and I woke myself again. I was amazed about how quick I could get out of my dream and out of sleep paralysis. When I was awake I felt so strange: happy, confused, I even cried. Later that day I read in a magazine about, guardian angel, also named spirit guides, by my surprise I read in the article that he could appear as a cloud of bright light.
Sorry I went way of my question… What I want to ask is, can anyone tell me how I can meet my spirit guide with meditation?