You are right, LucidGuess, MILD and VILD are quite alike each other…
but there is actually a method that’s not linked with lucid dreaming but is used when practice normal dreaming, that’s called dream incubation (or something). (maybe you knew that allready). Pedros method is based on that ‘dream incubation’, but MILD is based on self suggestions which is not the same thing. That’s why i think you could say it’s two different methods.
/Fixos
In the MILD method you imagine yourself inside a dream (for example the last dream you remembered when you waked) and you imagine that for some reason you suddenly understand that you are dreaming, and this is exactly Pedros method, it is another way of doing MILD, i don’t think you can call it a new method.
Sorry 
LucidGuess
We could call it a submethod or a specific form of an existing method (MILD).
At first I also thought it was just a form of MILD, but IMHO this isn´t true:
When doing MILD, you use your memory.The trick is to remember that you planned to do something, just like in RL when you tell yourself “don´t forget to pick the keys when you leave the house”.It´s just “don´t forget to go lucid when you dream”.You don´t have to think about it all the time, but it´s inside you until the task is completed.
So, the visual part in mind is just a strong form of setting your intention.
What you dream isn´t important here, you just got to connect the “general dream feeling” to your task (going lucid), so it isn´t about incubation at all.
VILD however doesn´t use this.No intention is needed.The trick in this technique is to incubate a situation that will make you go lucid.So IMHO this is an “independant” technique rather than a subform of MILD.
MILD: Memory (Intention) triggered
VILD: Visual (Incubation, which usually is done visually) triggered.
Hey, we could call both techniques IILD 
No please don´t do this… g
tapir
Did the method last night! I was up at 2 going to 3 and I feel asleep! I had a great dream though! I had a dream that everyone around me was lucid and we were flying around, and the more you became lucid the better you flew! But, I didn’t even notice falling asleep it was very odd, I closed my eyes for what seems like a second, and when I woke up, my lamp was still on and the book was on the same page. Can’t wait to try this method again! Great Method Pedros!!! 
nice Salu_Lucid 
itz time to see more posts like this now.,
posts like those give everyone more confidence which increases their chance to go lucid
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It works the other way around for me: Seeing other people posting about their successes only disencourages me and convinces me even further that everyone on the forum are so much better than myself at this…
Whoah whoah whoah sorry Lucidguess but you are wrong. Not only are VILD and MILD different but your post kinda proved it too lol.
You described MILD.
Firstly you mentioned “returning to sleep”. VILD is applied BEFORE sleep. Not returning to sleep!
Secondly you said something about not using my two friends but instead just imagine myself becoming aware and therefore lucid. Our dreamselves (before we’re lucid) act strangely sometimes and theres no garentee that we will become lucid. But since I’m ALWAYS asked to do the RC’s by my friends I always become lucid since I do the RC’s.
Also, dream incubation can be used for MILD but it is not required. VILD is all about using dream incubation to cause lucidity though!
If you believe VILD and MILD are the same then you don’t need to read my posts then coz there are plenty on MILD so just stick with them.
I’m not “advertising” VILD btw. I thought I’d be nice and let people know how I manage to become lucid. If VILD doesn’t sound any good or you just don’t like it general then I urge you to ignore it and do what seems right for you. That’s the best idea.
I donnot beleive it is MILD. I have done MILD before with moderate success, but when I did what Pedro said, they are nothing alike. Is hard to explain. ^.^ still no luck, but success is just getting up one more time then you fall down ( or in this case, going to sleep one more time with intention then you wake up. You get idea)
^.^
I only end up dreaming about thinking about LDing when I do this.
Tonight I will try to MWILD… I got a couple of trashy europop songs I might loop…
Yea Spirtual it really is great! And I do think that they give people more confidence which is always good 
Odd, same thing happened to me, but I didnt get to the visulation part, are you visualizing?
Hi Pedro, i read your posts becouse there are very interesting 
really! but i still think that your method is MILD, you can do any LD method as MILD, WILD or any other method when you first going to sleep or using the “returning to sleep” after 5-6 hours of sleep, waking up for a while and back to sleep, it’s not making it another kind of method, it’s just that when you are using any LD method together with the “returning back to sleep” then it’s increase very much your chances to succeed, for example some people can do WILD when they first going to sleep at 23:00 at night, but you have MUCH more chances to succeed with WILD if you sleep for 5 hours, wake up for 30-60 minutes and then going back to sleep, either way it’s still WILD!
I didn’t say that you can’t use your two friends for this method, when you are doing MILD you can imagine ANY situation you want that is going to make you understand that you are dreaming, for example when you do MILD you can imaging yourself just looking at an elephant crossing the street that makes you understand that this is a dream, this is what MILD is all about, to imagine again and again and again something in your head before falling asleep so that you will dream about this situation at night in one of your dreams and understand that you are dreaming! this is why it’s called MILD which means - “Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams” becouse you create a LD by using your MEMORY, the situation you imagined when you went to sleep.
Don’t be offended, i just think that your method is nothing other than the MILD method, i will continue reading your posts becouse then are very interesing
Last night after reading your posts i tried something similar and i ALMOST had a lucid dream (after a Loooooooong time!!! ) and also i had VERY interesting dreams! what i did was that when i went to sleep - from the moment i entered my bed, i stared asking myself in the head “is this a dream?? am i dreaming now???” then i opened my eyes for a few seconds and looked at my room to see if this is a dream, i did this again and again untill i falled asleep, and as i expected at one of my dreams i really asked myself suddenly if this is a dream but for some reason i was not sure about the answer and the dream did not become lucid… 
That’s all folks 
LucidGuess
I don’t care how it is called, MILD, VILD, BILD or woopeedoopee, or if it’s a totally independent method or a variant, the most important matter for me is: does it work?
Maybe I’ll do both of them
I still see it as a different form of MILD since MILD is about thinking a lot about LDing/RC’s, so VILD is a more ‘extreme’ form of MILD, for me.
I didn’t have success in visualisng when I tried VILD. I tried MWILD unsuccessfully so far (but I could always try another song) but when I woke up later I tried to WILD and I got some bits of dreams… but they abruptly stopped and I found myself back in bed.
So I think the time after you wake up during the night is the time to try VILD, too, not just when you go to sleep.
pedro, you tech sound interesting, i will try it, but maybe you should be a little more humble your aproach to dealing with people and presenting your ideas. you seem very cocky, you come off as one of those type of characters that are really full of themselves.
How can you accuse someone of being cocky with an avatar like that! … lol
Trying VILD again tonight!
Why VILD is different than MILD for Gamers
OK in advance for people who dont know The Zone is a dreamlike state that gamers can slip into (some at will some not) where thier entire reality becomes that game
VILD is similer to the time I was continually trying to do this one platform part of Phendrana Drifts (really cold snowy area in the first-person adventure game Metroid Prime) I was so focused that I was eventually doing the same part over and over, eventually i sipped into The Zone.
That is similer to VILD with one exception: YOu form the situation in your head.
according to LD4Alls Def. of MILD the two things are completly different. When doing VILD you visualize the dream
hmmm…
i’ve never done VILD successfully,. i’ve tried it properly 2wice though.,.
but both times i ended up having a LD …, even though it wasn’t directly how its supposed to transform from a vision to a dream., it was late late in the dream when i turned lucid, both times
A lot of you guys are saying its just natural for some people to ld every night. I believe (unless it is scientifically proven then you can rub it in my face), that it is strictly a mental thing, more than just saying to yourself ‘im going to ld every night’. It is a very subconscious mental understanding, like if a persons been lding every night their whole life, it is just locked in their psychi that it will continue on like that. If you were to reassure yourself; i mean REALLY reassure yourself in every aspect, that you would ld every night, you would.
I think he ment more along the lines of you dont phyically see them on your eye lids, because u dont accually use your eyes. Like I can imagine my sister for example, with my eyes open. If for example im looking at a blank tv it doesnt look like shes on tv, it doesnt just project her image on your eyelids, you see it in you mind.
ps. sry Daysong if im incorrect lol, but thats how i feel about it.