wow that is intence. what do they call this claravoyant (spelling0 or somthing. i have trained with this to some degree but this is somewhat diffrent dont you agree. what do you think is comming?
i find precog dreams very intriguing!
do you still have all your dreams written down? maybe you have dreams of the important thing as well but you don’t realize yet that that’s the important thing until it has manifested itself IRL?..
i never had such a detailed precog dream as you guys describe here, but i do have things i dream of and then something similar happens IRL.
for example, when i was on holiday i dreamt that i had found a specific shop and went shopping there. IRL i had no idea that shop would exist on my holiday location. But what do you know, the next day we went for a drive and found the shop i dreamt of, and did some shopping there as well.
In CWG (if you havent read it, highly recommended), i think it is in part II or III that clairvoyance is explained like this (sorry no literal quote and i can get it wrong)
the soul creates its reality and the clairvoyant can somehow jump into time and see the things that the soul has already created for itself. then the clairvoyant comes back into this time and has memories of the would be creations of that soul.
in the book it is described differently and better but this is somehow the basics of it.
what i think that in a precog dream you somehow jump to a part of your consciousness that has already created that thing for you, but you still have to ‘travel through’ that IRL. Depending of how clear your ‘reception’ is you remember it detailed or less detailed.
anyhow i find it very interesting stuff and hope to read more about it.
i think the feeling you have when realizing you already dreamt it, i recognize that feeling. I have had that too - but i never had it in such detail as you describe, that you know what is going to happen next.
well, this is some thoughts of mine on the subject, sorry if i’m a little incoherent. it is late, i should go to sleep.
that is great Q. what was the shop if you can remember? and what is CWG some where on the forum i will go and find it. I sure as hell dont understand how this works, but it is very very cool. I have started to see things now outside of dreams to. what a certain girl is wearing. i have a strong feeling that this girl and iu are some how connected and for the past 3 days i have seen what she is going to wear the next day or the next time i see her. twice in dreams and for the first time today while i was awake. strange to see what you saw in your mind come into rl.
But your theory seems to be about right Q but i do have one quick question about it. what about the things that we havent made up for our selves? i mean like the clothes she wore or the ending to matrix 3. i dont think i made that up unless someone is reading my dreams and stealing my ideas 
anyway
Bye byez
Richard
This is definatly a very interesting topic. I have a couple questions, first, when you realise that something is happening that you have dreamed before, does anything change for you as far as your feelings or visuals. I mention this because this sort of thing has happend to me. Once, although this isn’t as extreme, it was odd, I was at my friends house and we were sitting on the porch. A red van drove by to the right, which ends in a dead end, then another, then another. Then I only saw one van drive back the other way. Now, the house is right near the dead end and every time the van drove by my friend and i just looked at each other and said, “that was weird.” I bothered me much more than him, he just passed it as “a glitch in the matirx.” But for me, seeing three of the same van going the same way to a dead end, was not… comforting. I felt a little dizzy and confused about the situation. Then, I had a dream where the same thing happend. I know this doesn’t qualify as precog, but I wondered if you felt the same sort of feelings when these things happend to you? Another question is, I have felt sometimes that things have changed recently, I mean in a since of everything as a whole, something has happend, (or in your case is about to happen) that has changed the nature of reality or perhaps just my perception of it. I dont know if anyone reading this will take me seriously but if someone does I would love to talk much more about this type of thing. I am very interested in this sort of thing and also if anyone knows any books i should read please list them for me so i can check them out.
Thanks
ummm i cant say the last few times but i have had that. sorta a weird head spin thing then unfocus of the eyes and a strange pressure in my head. but that was a while ago. now it is more of what the hell this is very strange. and now oh another precog wow this is cool 
i must be a lot of trouble today cause i dont understand that. do you mean that your view of the world has changed? i could rattle on about how my view has changed but you lot would think i am crazy lol. lets just say this isnt to diffrent from our dreams.
any way as for the books i know of none so i am too interested in them
Richard
What i mean is more along the lines of this, I have been having a long complex series of illnesses, that i dont really think you wanna hear the deatails of, but simply, I have been sick for like 2 years on and off and it has caused me alot of anxiety problems and stress disorders. This is all according to the doctor but basically it breaks down to I don’t feel normal. I have noticed things about the world that I never noticed before And i frequently see things and get the dizzy distant feeling. I also notice things about society falling apart and I often wonder about the future of our race. I see that the world is slowly (pardon my french) ■■■■■■■ itself over. I often get dreams about what i have called a reality shift, which best as i can explain it is that something has happend that has caused the nature of space time, or changed my physicall perception of reality, my understanding of the way life works, ect. Your precog dreams interest me because I believe that if you could control more about them or could learn to channel them into real life you may find that the world is different now that it was say… 10 years ago. I dunno, like i said most people would just say im crazy or wouldn’t have read this whole post. SO, to sum up if anyone out there is reading this i would really like to talk more about it 
P.S. I think I am a little Crazy and I like it
P.S.S.
I would really like to hear you talk about those things…if you want post em up…
Thanks
Jason
lol ahhhh ok now i get you. nope i dont think your crazy and for good reason. i my self am not crazy … well not to my way of thinkinbg, but what is crazy??? just diffrent from normal… well in taht case i am very crazy 
and so are the rest of you
any way where was i oh yer. the way i see the world has changed over the last few days infact. the world to me seems like… i dont know it is like the feeling you get just before you go lucid. you know that something is wrong but you just cant put your finger to it then bam u know you are dreaming. see i dont know how or why i have had these flashes of the future but it has got me thinking the thoughts i had when i first started lucid dreaming and i am sure all of you have thought this.
Is this real.
Now what do i mean by real? well i know this isnt a dream all my RT tell me i am not dreaming, but RT are based on rules that the dream world doesnt follow, but are based on teh rules taht this world follows. So ofcourse we cant at the moment prove that we are in face in ANOTHER type of dream because we havent found anyway to test it. and if we did we would be labled crazy.
ok that was just some crazy rant but time is short and i have to go to my next class. i think i had a post in quest about is this real somewhere got some good answers. did that make sense?
Richard
Lol, OK well that made since. Crazy, thats such a great word, because nobody really knows that it means, but to establish what we mean by crazy lets say that crazy means that you have some kind of physical or chemical or just mental instability that causes you to feel or see or know things that are abstract and have no backing. And by that defination i dont believe either one of us are crazy. One thing though, i like they way you put it by comparing it to a LD, i feel the same thing only it has lasted a few weeks maybe months im not sure which because i kinda forgot what its like to feel normal… One thing, do you take any anti-depressents or anxiety meds… i did for a while but they made me quit careing about everything and i desided that wasn’t helping at all…
lol nope i dont take any drugs. I dont think once you feel this feeling that it will ever go away. that is until we wake up lol but who can say. But any ideas how precog works? Qs was good but more would be great. i really want to understand it or at least use it proply.
Richard
Im not the only one who has these? I know its not hallucinations cause:
I’ve never smoked anything, not even a cigarette, and I dont plan to.
No drugs for me =P.
I wonder what causes these? >_>
hmm alright i just had one now from last year. so here i am in class doing web pages in html and i look around and like i know all thsese people but i remember the dream from over a year ago and in the dream i knew none of them because well i was not at college then. mind you in my dream my computer blew up so i guess there are some diffrences???
I have a theory about how the Precog thing works, wanna hear it…well you are going to anyway 
: Basically, time consists of a fabric that lays gently on top of our physical world like a blanket. It is pure in its existance outside of our reach. Time, like anything else does have a beginning and an end. Our physical bodies interact with it constantly on a daily basis and to prevent us from reaching the beginning or the end it simply folds over itself infinaty. So, it is possible for our minds, be it only in dreams where we are less influenced by our ego or sensory imput, or in waking life ( this would take lots of practice on meditation and trance.) to actually puncture through time and expierence something that has already happend countless times before and is always going to happen again. I believe that the dreams you have are actually your mind experiencing a moment that has already happend by simply exploring the “blanket” right outside of our dimension. This is just my little theory.
wow deep and well thought out. that reminds me of m theory but ohhh i wonder if we should go there. anyway does that mean we are always in the past present and future??? 
monday morning… not easy to think about… need a coffee
Well, i guess you could say that…but i perfer to say now is all there is…the past cant be changed and neither can the future… everything has happend already millions of times… this could be the 1000000th time I have typed this post…This could be the trillionth earth…ect.
hey maybe now u can prevent something happing to u if u dream about it and u see it coming in real life
i dont know if you can stop it. i thought i did today but i might have been wrong. for the first time my dream memory didnt last half a second it last well over 10. it was as if i were in the psat present and future at the same time… ummm yer. anyway i looked around and i wont go into anything but i thought i stoped what happened next and i thought. cool i changed the future, but the desicion i made to change the future. i didnt actually dream. ok this is way to hard to explain what i mean is i didnt dream the choice i dreamed the action before the choice… does that make any sense?
My most recent precog dream involved a girl I know. I hadn’t seen her for about three months. Then one night I had a dream about her, and the very next day I went to a party and she was there. And just about 2 weeks ago, the same thing happened with the same person- I hadn’t seen her since that first party, and then I had a dream about her and she was at the next day’s party.
The interesting thing is that the second time, I didn’t even know there was going to be a party that day- the host had forgotten to invite me, and only remembered about 2 hours before it started.
The first one I mentioned was actually the dream that renewed my great interest in dreams in general, so if it weren’t for that one, I wouldn’t be posting here at all.
I have a theory as to how this is possible, even without my belief in the existence of time (there is no past or future, only the present) or a separate spiritual plane. I’ll post it if there’s any interest…
Is your theory of time related to the one mentioned in Waking Life? Just curious…
i was only kidding what i said
I did a lot of thinking based on Waking Life, and other movies as well. I have several sources of imput for why I feel the way I do about particular things. Books and the like have inspired me. So my theorys usually consist of lots things. I don’t think of it as “ripping them off” because it wasn’t there ideas to begin with, someone has thought of everything you will ever think of. I dont think of it that way, i rather think of my theorys as my way of simplifiying the situation down in a logical since and putting it in prespective that can be understood by my mind. Same as the Romans did with Gods, like the Christians did with GOD, and i then do it with Time, ect. so thats where I think ideas come from…everything