genetics, freind or foe?

Personally I don’t have any problems with most genetics, the only one I have a problem with is cloning.

I don’t trust genetically modified anything.

Food: While it has it’s good sides no one really know how the food is being altered we just have to take their word for it. Nor do we have any idea of the effects on the human body of these modified foods will have in the long term. Remember even cigs were thought to be “good” for you when they first came out, but a few years after all the bad side effects came out.

Everything we eat has an effect on our body, there’s no way to really no how genetically altered foods may effect us. We are guinnee pigs. Mother Nature knows whats she doing if food stuff was meant to be altered nature would do it. Lets leave it upto nature that knows what its doing.

Genetic Medicals: Making organs ok this isn’t really a bad thing at all, save lives, possibly more reliable than organ donors as if they use the persons DNA less chance of rejection. But how long will it be before they start attempting the human brain? Which brings us to…

Cloning: Scientists continue to clone animals, we all heard of Dolly the Sheep most likely but maybe not of the rats, mice and guinee pigs that also have been cloned.

It doesn’t take a genuis to realise that human cloning isn’t going to be ignored, that was the whole point of the animal cloning. Yes laws can be made but only if the person in power to make those laws is AGAINST IT. And that will only go for people in that country there are many countries that won’t make that law.

Innevitably human cloning will happen and that could lead to the end of the human race. But hey i won’t be alive then so who cares lol. A race cannot live as clones so for me human cloning should never be allowed to make the brainstorming stage.

Genetics has it’s use medically but in other areas it could be a reciep for disaster.

i agree with most of what you said dark matter. But riddle me this bat man. what about non genetically altered meats. by non genetically altered i mean cows and pigs and such whoes DNA have not deen modified.
Do you eat McDonalds? Or any fast food for that matter. which are so full of growth hormons thats its no wonder the obesity levels have resen in past years. Cow are given hormons so that they constently produce milk to the point that their uters scrape against the ground whail they walk causing blisters and scabs on the very organs the milk we drink comes from. That milk is also full of these hormons and we are just recently finding out their effects on the humans that cunsume the product.
Chickens have been breed to the point that they constently produce unfertilized eggs.
also lets look at the living condistions of factory farms. So many chickens cramed into one space that there beaks are cut off to avoid them attacking each other and harming there presious meat. and the infamous bolt gun used to kill these animals which has only a 50% rate of actually killing them. And lets not forget veal. we all know how that is obtained.
Yet we have no problem comsuming the fruits of these methods.
How is that means of minipulation any differant then genetic means?
Also if these foods can be grown with genetics putting an end to all this. Why not go that rout?
It would also solve some problems with being critisized by those pesky vegans.

oh and on cloning, I completly agree. The thought of human cloning is one of the stupidest to ever come out of the human race. Espesially because you know people will have the earge to clone there young children that have passed away and expect them to be the same person. This could set standerds that no clone could live up to. Also great movie on the subject. ‘Gatica’. i highly recomend it.

Personally, I like what the field of genetics has done for humanity so far.

right on Monitor199a

i don’t eat meat.

I’m not a vegitrian i just don’t like meat with the exception of chicken/turkey and fish however. As for mcDs nope only fast food i eat are Pizza (yes pepperoni dats meat ooh i like meat lol) I’ve only ever been to McDs once in my life and all i had was fries n a coke.

Im with the KFC theory :happy:

i think that if so many people have had suspicious of kfc in particular, then there must be something going on.

I dont eat fast food. except i eat hungry jacks chips. now when i see people eating KFC i want to tell them what they are eating… but in the end i dont think that they really care.

does anyone know what happend to dolly?

I don’t know, KFC is one of the only nation wide chains of Chicken joints. next to popey’s. which rocks the house. But KFC to my knowladge is the oldest of these two. Every body knows KFC. And in a sociaty on the edge of this whole genetic revolution. its not hard to imagine that many people see fit to simply acuse KFC because there a big buissness. On top of that i don’t beleive it is possible at this point to gennetically alter animals in that way. Especially on so large a scale as to be KFC’s soul source of product.
I think its more posibly that they are tring to find ways to in which to genetically alter chickens and some one got hold of that and distorted it. Or maybe it was simply a joke at a company meeting that some one took the wronge way.

Anyway if it were true, i’m sure the government and FDA would have something to say about it.

hehehe i dont know what popeys is lol.

umm… another thing… that they dont actaully say chicken on the menu.
i’ll have to check that one out.lol

ummm dolly the sheep died i found that out yesterday.

hehehe… there is that big thing with the Raliens about how they have cloned a human ebryo. i think that is what it is lol.

they are crazy bunch. lol

genetics is just knowledge, and as with any knowledge it can be used as a tool for both good and evil.

Humans altering genetics is just trouble waiting to happen. Humans create mistakes, and then sometimes learn from those mistakes. Nature however, seems to create sublime creatures that survive well for the time they are destined to live here. To alter nature’s instructions which have been going along just great for many years is going to create horror and monsters. The next 1000 years is going to be one whacky ride.

About KFC, oh come on people! Start using that noggin of yours and realize the absurdity of that story. All farms, processing plants, restaurants, and anything involved in the food business in the US is inspected every month. Do you really think “lumps of muscle” is fed through a tube and then “secretly prepared” for the public. That’s nonsense! The public work at these places and there would be “whistle blowers” the first day!

However, an Israeli in Israel (not an American in the US working for KFC) bred a feather-less chicken.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2000003.stm
The 1st of many monsters. :grin:

hehehehe… maybe someone had a dream about the future.

The only thing I would ever appreciate from that genetics stuff, is if they used it to make new enhanced super weed, that was 10 times stronger then purple haze and completely safe like normal weed. That would rock my socks, I would have to throw a party, and you’d all be invited. Also that stuff about the glowing fish…that’s kind of sick, it would look like it had freaking radiation exposure or something. The fixing birth defects and hereditary diseases is good, you could probably stop hereditary hair loss eventually if they took it far enough, all kinds of that hereditary junk. Good uses. Cloning humans=bad uses.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

That is the coolest thing i’ve ever seen DreamAddict. Thank you, that link has brought much joy into my hart.

Also about popeys, i know they have them in ohio and florida so they are at least covering the eastern united states. Haven’t you ever seen ‘Little Nicky’?

oh and check this out:
ekac.org/gfpbunny.html#gfpbunnyanchor

Alba the glowing rabbit. One of the first examples of the outragous ‘genetic art’ seems a silly concept right?
I thought that to and still do. However I watch with great intent. For how cool would it be if some one, through genetics, created a real life dragon that breathed fire and everything.
And i know the posably apocolyptic out comes of this, for I have seen both ‘jarassic park’ and ‘Reing of Fire’. But you have to admit it would be an amazing thing to see. I Don’t think thats necessarialy bad science. Mad science perhaps. But as long as its contained to one or two specimens… any way by the time thats able to happen we will most likely all be dead. But I must addmitt i am intreged to see the creatures they creat in the futur.

Super weed huh? You ever seen ‘American Beauty’? That stuff dude has, G-13, or what ever its called. the weed genetically inhanced by the government. That is actually real. but good luck getting a hold of it.

yeah, that won’t happen. We need to end the war against drugs in the US first and get pot legal. Then we can think abou th genetic super weed. Fields and fields of super weed just waiting to be…made into hemp clothing, used for fuel, and other important uses. Or just smoked, I wish it was legal, people would be a lot nicer, and relaxed, less violence and stuff. That chicken thing is really funny.

Yeah but we seem to be going in the opposit direction now. It is getting harder and harder for poeple to get liquer licenses, and what about all these public smoking bands coming about.
Heres what we got now though. There are three states that have pretty leniant weed laws now. california. we know has legalized it for medicinal reasons. In washington its legal to grow it, because it grow like wild fire there any way and theres nothing any one can do about it. They have laws against havesting it though. and in ohio its pretty much legal to posses. I say pretty much legal to poses because insted of going to jail. its a misdemeaner for anything under 3oz and a quorter. Why oh why did i leave ohio to come to nazi florida. :cry:

DAMNIT!!!
Why most everything turn into a discution about weed. Please someone set this thread back on track.

Exactly! I don’t find the idea of harvesting brainless meat for consuming a far fetched idea with the future of genetics, but I think the public will know about it. I also think something so bizarre will take some time before the public would accept it, but perhaps it could be started for pet food. Or perhaps it will be marketed as “more humane” than suffering animals in cramped spaces.
Who knows what the crazy future will hold, but I bet it’s crazy! :happy:

web spinning sheep??? Crazy indeed dreamaddict
organicconsumers.org/Patent/ … fm#Monkeys
I never even thought of animal expiraminting genetics would be used to make steel.