I thought it was 3D??
The 3D part is just an illusion because we have 2 eyes at a small distance from each other, causing the images to merge, allowing us to get some idea how far away objects are. Disregarding this, we’re still only seeing a 2D ‘picture’ of the world. Objects are hidden behind other objects, etc. Our eyes work the same was as a traditional camera, which takes a static image of the world mapping only 2 dimensions.
Anyway, the point is that we simply couldn’t even simulate viewing the world in 3 or 4 dimensions, and our attempts to do so would be purely an imaginative mixture of 2D equivalents constantly flickering between several different angles in accordance with the mind’s inability to concentrate on multiple items simultaneously.
Hey Raven24
Yea, I met two Ravens, I looked for them and found them sitting in a tree.
I haven’t posted about it because I don’t remember exactly what they said but I can try and retell you what I remember.
Raven 1 (looking at me then other raven: You want to know what us Ravens have to say about the world?
Raven2: We are a lot more physical in the real world (this one seems to be smug and slightly mocking.
Me: I was told to ask you.
Raven 1: You have to think ahead.
Raven 2: Are you sure we are what you are looking for?
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I don’t remember anything else clearly anough so I can know I retell it to you without some form of ‘filling in’.
I will try and meet them again.
I’m sorry guys for not updating for a while (sorry blazin >D).
For some reason, since I started this project, my recall has been worse!
I don’t want to post my experiences untill I remember them clearly, I do have flashes of eating something as a lion but they are only visual and I don’t want to ‘fake’ it. It would be easy to let one’s imagination go wild but that wouldn’t be fair to you guys, I’m going to give 100% honest descriptions.
Maybe it’s the stress, but I simply don’t remember much since last post, and not a single entire dream to post in the diary.
Anyway, I will post hereunder what I DID do since last time, also what I already have done.
<>HatedOne, thanks for the tips, I think they help me a lot in one of my LDs where I used Green Lantern’s ring (DC comic book Super Hero), I will write it in the diary, it was truuuly an awesome on, I’m very glad I remember it.
<>Odd2k I do that reloading part actually (in some form or another) and it usually helps a little, but Sometimes the gun looses its form if you focus too much. Its all about flow control >D.
<>Isotope, predictability, I experiment with this a lot and I have a theory about it. You know how you never actually act and ‘are’ they way you want. Well your subconscious is the boss of you basically, LDs give you a little more control but its rare to predict what the sub will throw at you. I’ve actually been in fights with what I think is my sub (I call him Blue, I guess I should account for all this in my Diary).
Dude, I’m not going to do math in my LDs, I’m not your guy for those kinds of things.
I have flashes of meeting myself, don’t really recall, so I should try it again.
I was fighting this other guys in an LD once and they threw a squid like thing at me, for some reason it stuck on me and hurt like hell. It was really frustrating (I never loose an LD battle) and it hurt so much I couldn’t concentrate enough to change it. I eventually overcame it, used my sub’s idea of these ‘squids’, and threw them at my enemies. Man… they screamed.
<> I don’t know if you’ll believe me, but my greatest ever feeling of love was for a DC, she was wonderful. I felt extreme angst all that day, since I didn’t know that it would magically pass I was really frightened. But it did pass, and similar experiences have as well. Seems the sub guards itself from falling in love with someone who doesn’t exist… Anyways, I’m not keen on trying this too much, aftereffects are unbearable.
<>Tbab, I don’t really have to energy to put into this 
<>Tasting in dream then rl, I think you only think you knew what it would taste like but you really only filled in what you thought you knew when you really tasted and knew … he he he
<>RinBin, space, seems I haven’t explored space much, I need to try this together with becoming a planet, tnx for the tip
flying at the speed of light has don many things for me. Vision wise everything goes blurry then you can basically see nothing then it is as if you’re not moving at all. It’s a good way to change dream scenery. In any case, very high speeds makes you unable to really perceive the world, and if you change this it seems you are just moving slow again (though DCs etc seem to be stopped in time).
Note to self, people to Identify in dreams, through dream guides or otherwise, Jack, Blazin and RinBin.
<>DBZ, man… DBZ action is awesome in LDs, when you go super sayajin(and I suppose have watched the show on morning tv all your childhood (in france)) you can really wreck some havock on your surroundings. Putting your hand through concret feels like moving it through dust. I should make a dream diary entry on this too.
<>Spirit, becoming a plant and getting energy from the sun is a great idea, imagine what the mind will do with that, I will definitely try.
Concerning energy, I’ve been that in many forms, I’ve been many variants of light, fire, sludge. Often I stay in some sort of humanoid form though and I have seldom placed much emphasis on it (i.e. I’m mostly using it to kick ass).
<>Magic lamp sounds like a neat Idea, maybe I’ll summon Jack’s DreamGuide with it >D
Ok, I will try to be more regular and have some better recall. 
Oh my god! Have I ever before had so many spelling errors?!?!?!
Sorry guys, I swear I spell better, must be tired. You’ll just have to make the best of it.
re Atheist, what you feel in a dream is how your mind (inc subconcious) would expect it to feel. Transforming into a planet doesn’t mean that your sensations are really like they would be were you a sentient planet, but like your mind thinks it would feel like. You can’t possibly get better than that. Same goes for meditation when you change your size to encompass the universe.
I Came up with more cool thingd to do
1: Dive in to the deepest ocean (marinea deep?)
2: Astral project twice?
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Sure, it could still be interesting taking the form of something unconventional like a planet. I was mainly referring to the 3D/4D vision.
Atheist,
Perhaps you would agree that although our visual aparatus has only 2D data with which to work, the brain does construct a perfectly good 3D visual model from the 2D data.
I personally have also experienced creating a somewhat (spacial) 4D visual model within the brain.
I think this would be very interesting stuff to explore within LD’s … and I believe our limits are only the ones we ourselves set.
Peace,
Sruthan
Sure, but we don’t ‘visualize’ this 3D representation. We simply use it to inform the images of the object or scene when we attempt to render them. We can’t actually ‘see’ or even ‘imagine’ a 3 or 4 dimensional view of anything - it’s an impossibility.
I’d love to see what you mean by this.
Actually, vision is 3d in real-life, unless you only have one eye and are unable to perceive depth.
Just to reach out a bit. Atheist I understand what you mean and agree.
Still, who says fake 4D is not better than real 4D
i read about something that scientists are calling the one hundredth monkey effect. the theory basically suggests that if one member of a species has experinced something, or learned something, the entire species should be able to use their knowledge to their own benefit. in other words:
clears throat
anything you can do, i can do better,
i can do anything better than you.
thank you, thank you
ok if you guys want to talk about the fourth dimension thats cool and all, but couldnt u go do it on another thread? its interesting and all but this wasnt what the original topic was about. im not trying to come off as an asshat but please go make another topic and talk all about 4D there, not here. i get agitated everytime i see another reply to this topic and get all exited just to see that its another post about that 4D stuff.
Lol You funny Blazinfish…heheh funny but right.I cant wait for the response from Ureon so im checking it all the time…hehe and dont get a word what its all about with 3d not mentioning 4d.
All i know are d,dd,and ddd bras
oh Jack, you funny too. You make me laugh.
All i know are d,dd,and ddd bras <–quite humorous. 
somebody should sig that^ lol
Here’s another thing to try out:
Try, in a dream, to pronounce a language you’ve studied (French, for instance) perfectly and then if it works, see if you’ve become better IRL too!
I’m studying Japanese now and I’m excited about the idea that one perhaps could use lucid dreams to overcome the mental blocks that prevent one from fully learning to speak a language. Because that’s what I really think it’s about. There are people that’ve learned to speak and pronounce a language perfectly as adults. So why wouldn’t we able to? 
I know this may seem a stupid idea, but I’m curios about it. If you hold your breath in an LD consciously, does this stop you from breathing in RL. Would you awaken or would you stand in your dream until you faint in to unconsciously (and involuntrly start breathing again - hopefully).
Is it possible SD. I’m proposing that we actually try it, inviting the whole forum into your dream. This way, if it works, then at leats a few of us will remeber and will be able to report it on the forum. Hopefully the coinsidences will proove or disprove LD. (Does this one belong in the laboratoritory.
Try living in a 2 dimensional world. Can we imagine what this would be like?
Going through the star gate.
Going on a start ship and asking them to explain how it works. Writing everything down when you awake. And then making billlionss in star ship production. Lol.
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