Eyelids technique - new effortless technique!

( I posted it before a few minutes in the wrong place, sorry )

Hi, today i found someting very interesting in the alt.dreams.lucid newsgroup, it’s very similar to the WILD method ( basically it is WILD … ) but it’s sound really good and i’m gona try it tonight! here it is -

From: Thomas (gjedde@usa.net) -

Hi there!

I have by coincedence and some inspiration from Zin and a guy at
another board + my own experiences some years ago come across a new
technique, that requires nearly zero effort! Too hard to believe? Try
it!

1. Wake up in the middle of the night - only to stay awake for max. 10
   sec. before returning to sleep. In other words: When you wake up, go
   back to sleep at once without getting up.

2. While falling asleep - which should be rather quick because you
   have been awake only a few seconds - USE YOUR IMAGINATION.

(Zin once recommended to imaging doing an activity, like running. I
once recommended imagining a kinesthetic activity, like skating and
flying. And this all works. Perhaps it works imagining ANYTHING. But
the activity-thing in first-person (associated) is very good). But
another little “trick” works for me even better! The
eyelids-“thing”…here it comes:

Instead of imagining you are someplace and doing something, just lay
in your bed and fall asleep, while SEEING OUT THROUGH YOUR CLOSED
EYELIDS - OF COURSE IN YOUR IMAGINATION…after all your eyes are
closed, right (so it can only be in your imagination).

See out through your closed eyelids in your imagination as if your
eyelids were invisible to your eyes…or as if your eyes in fact were
open. You ‘seeing’ what is really there in front of you, or you
‘seeing’ something else is irrelevant. For instance: In front of you
could be a TV, but you could as well ‘see’ a painting, a bike or
anything else.

3. Now, what happens is, that suddenly you can in fact see, and you
   can move your DREAMBODY, get out the bed and enjoy a lucid dream!

So the key to this technique is to USE YOUR IMAGINATION to see out
through your closed eyelids, as if you had open eyes or your eyelids
were invisible to your eyes. It is NOT to imagining you being
somewhere else and doing something.

I haven’t even written dream journal (I do think about what I dreamed
during the night when I awake though, I just don’t write it down). I
don’t even do reality checks. I only do this technique, and SO FAR it
has worked 3 out of 4 nights. The one night it didn’t work, I couldn’t
remember if I at all woke up, so I could try the technique.

Regards,
Thomas

Nice Technique! I’m trying it tonight… I’ll post the results tomorrow.

hmm

Sorry nO-SKiLLzZ but i must ignore you

lies!!!

just get lost

Who or what is “lost” and how do I get him/her/it?

Sounds good. Going to try it… somday… when I get back into wanting to dream.

is there any easy way to wake up for 10 seconds in middle of the night and remember to do the eye lid thing?

Sound like a usefull tecnique. Sounds like an extended version of the calmed tecnique, ofcourse that sounds difficult since I have truble waking up without an alarmclock. thanks for the tip. (btw I hear many things)

Hi there!

This is my technique! It was cool to see it posted in here! So I signed up.

You know how I found this technique. You know I wrote that it was partially because of a guy at another board - THIS BOARD. I got the idea from the CHAINING technique. I have simply added something to the CHAINING technique. I have stressed the importance of USING YOUR IMAGINATION.

Using the eyelids-thing is a good way. But also imagining being someplace and doing a kinesthetic activity is also great.

Thomas

So you advise us not to budge when we wake up in the middle of the night?

How do you just randomly wake yourself up in the middle of the night? An alarm clock? or do you just somehow DO it?

I often awake in the middle of the night by myself. But you could use an alarmclock and just turn it off immediatly. But no matter how long you have been awake, you can still try it. It’s best though, if you lay back to sleep immediatly when you awaken though.

The two key points in this technique is:

1. When you wake, go to sleep immediatly
2. Use your imagination to enter the dream.
   a) Imagine you’re doing a kinesthetic activity associated (looking out through your own eyes)
   b) Look through your closed eyelids - of course in your imagination. Whether you see what is really there in front of you, or you see something else is not important.

Happy lucidity!

Thomas

Any particular time into your sleep that you usually wake up at?

Very interesting! But still, I don’t see how you are roused from sleep without the aid of any external noise or stimulus. Any advice on how to do your random awakening thing?

Must be late or i really dont see the diffrence from usuall WILD.Its just personally modified,slightly.Id still call it WILD.
Wild uses hypnagogics to enter the dream,creating shapes of your dreamsigns(to ld) or just observing them(to obe).
thats what i allways thought.

About waking at night… I frequently wake in the middle of the night. In fact, its rare for me to just fall asleep and sleep straight through. I used to be able to wake at a specific time by just telling myself I needed to. I used to get up for school that way when I was in high school. Tell myslef to get up at seven and I would.

I finally managed to try it. Wake up by alarm under my pillow, reach it to shut it and then don’t move and go back to sleep immediately ie. look at hypnagogics/use my imagination and try to imagine myself doing something from the first person perspective.

When I first succeded I had 3 LDs in a row, 3 days later 3 more. I’m still not that good at concentrating at hypnogogics when I go back to sleep, but I’m getting better at it. And with quantity I can finally focus on quality, that is, attaining a higher level lucidity.

Alright!

Oh and by the way… Thanks go to LucidGuess, Thomas and zin for sharing this technique with us and with alt.dreams.lucid.

Cheers again!