A few tips on realizing LD state of being.

Zaerus:)Yep i didnt mean you copied something…just pointed out similar way through that brain association:)Ive read about opposite trigger,and thats why i mentioned that.
Sorry if i sounded that way:(
But i didnt quite understand :“And as for Jack’s reply, let me say I’m rather humbled that you took the time to reply to my post. I felt apart of something when I found it was you who replied second.”
Why?:)im not sure how to understand that.
And yes,i tried those on the beginning…i used your post just to remind some beginners who might be reading this how effectively put RCs and dream diary in one working combo:)

And i think Ureon`s post brings up something to think of- which way would that be actuallly better- wear something before bed or take it off.I guess its up to persons habit:)

You said you don’t get how wearing a ring helps. That you could just wear pajamas and use that. Well, how often in a dream are you wearing what you wore to bed? I thought so. Yet certain things remain constant in your self projection OF yourself. Such as your distinguishing features; facial features, hair, eyes, body build, the things that make YOU, well, YOU. Now tell me Ureon, would you sentimental over pajamas? (if you do I’ll pray for yo so don’t worry) Most answer no, but a ring from the one you love IS cause to get teary eyed. Such an important thing IS constant in a dream. If I only wear my ring before I go to bed I know I’m alseep and dreaming. I have not once dreampt and find myself not wearing the cross ring, so it’s a constant. Now do you understand? If you don’t tell me and I’ll try to break it down for you more in my next entry :content:

Jack, what I meant was that you have much more posts than me, and another star than I have. I also read the posts and see you are quite a thinker, even though I see myself as being on a high lucidity plane, all are equal. It’s just that you seem a veteran here and just a novice. Sorry for the confusion. Hey go check out my other posts, they have interesting topics too, especially the Sun one, I could really use some help there. :cool:

Hehe ok:)Didnt know someone actually watches those stars and posts…and thank you for kind words:)
“Thinker” is actually good word…i think its thx to the fact im stoner too:)

Ps.yep ive read other posts…cant relate tho:(

Don’t worry about not being able to relate to me. The fact you care is support enough. Good luck on your quest. I have moved on to the next step, plain and simple enjoyment of MadWorld and the ladies. I only have a few problems now. Say, I take it by your avatar you like …sex right? :cool: Well I do hentai you know…today I’ll put it on my site and you can…er…check it out :gni:

Hi
Well,if i got it right,Zaerus uses both ways at once:
He has a chance to notice that something is there that normally shouldn´t (his ring) and another chance to notice something is absent that should be there (his scars)

I thought of the second way already (i wear glasses,but in my dreams they are normally not there).But unfortunately,as soon as i look for my glasses in my dream they are suddenly there…
So,i think it migh work better for me to do it the other way round.I fear this method will take a really long time to work,though (a few weeks,months,a year…?).But as soon as i start to project the object in my dreamworld this could be a really awesome technique

Traumgänger

Ah so I see I’m helping someone, execllent. Good luck on the whole sunglasses thing, it helps if you wear the same pair all the time and if the glasses have special meaning to you. But it’s impractical if you night dream, i.e. dream it’s night all the time in your dreamscape. But don’t give up. Keep it up :nerd_face:

Hi
Sorry,perhaps my post wasn´t so clear :shy:
I always wear glasses (have to),but that didn´t work for lucid dreaming.So now i will stop trying to use my glasses for lucidity,cause i tricked myself with this.
But you helped me anyway,cause as i said i will search for some kind of ring or something that i will wear only at night,like you do

Traumgänger

Hey don’t worry about :wink: Hmmmm. Soe desu on the glasses issue. Remember though, what ever you find make sure it has sentimental value. It’s important you feel conected to the dream idea at hand. A closer relation with the idea to RL helps distinguish reality from sub-concious dreaming. Let’s see… how about trying to sleep in a certain postistion in a pattern? Like one position one day,another the next, then another the next, then repeat the pattern . This may help to break up the routine of average dreaming. If I don’t iniciate lucidity in a dream( which I don’t as much any more despite I’m so good at it) I find my posture I use before sleep has a sub-slime effect on the type of dream I have. Hope I’m helping :wink:

Hey don’t you patronize me :wink:… Just kidding…

What I meant was that if you dream that you are talking a walk for example then why would your ring be there if you know that you only wear it when going to bed?

If you constantly ‘wish’ for the ring to be there that might explain it. You don’t have to break it down for me I understand. I mean, I have an IQ over 50 so it should work right?

I wear the ring in a dream because it’s a sub-concious desire. IRL I know not to wear it. In a dream I SubC puts it on. Get it?

Zaerus it could be that I’m too old but your website makes as much sense 2 me as a smack round the head with a bag o monkeys! :eh:

:wink:

Well you seem to have consistancy: Your ring is always there in a dream, but your scars are not there… I think this will differ greatly from one person to the other… I have a scar, but I’m pretty sure it might be in the dream too… or it might not be in SOME dreams, but present in others.

Aside from that, I think the scar check is a very good reality check :smile: and I can’t believe I didn’t think of that.

Want to know if my babling is helping. Just curious :wink:

Hmmm Zaerus, i find your ring thing quite nice…but you also said you were a lucid dreamer for as long as you could remember…at what age did you get your ring? So before you had a different trigger to make you lucid…i presume?!

Ok nice thing though…the ring and lucidity…yep real nice!

Greetz,

Jeff

Before I got the ring I did have other Lucid triggers. Such as my dreamscape characters I made . And I’ve had those cirtters for as long as I can remember. :content: Nice question, hope I cleared things up.

:confused:tupid: Zaerus, you enjoy cutting yourself? WHY?! It hurts and is disgusting… there are some sick people out there. :crazy:

Why gee thanks for the support Chuckster :roll: . Your advice really helps :nono: .

Z, you’re a really intense person. Well done.

Thanks illumination for the praise. I just try to be thurough. Do you have any insight or opinion on my post other than my intensity? :nerd_face: