I feel bad for ya Infection but at least you know how she feels. And besides, fortune favours the bold. Don’t worry Ms. Right’ll come along some day. And hopefully when she does she’ll have a sister that you can introduce to Raging. lol
“Uhhh… Quotes are nice?!” - Mabus
Well, I agree with the last quote, just not in the context you had it in. 
I guess it gets down to a matter of what love really is. I’ve been “madly in love” with a girl I’ve only seen once or twice. And I’ve been in relationships where I was truly in love. There is a difference. It might be hard to put in words, but love transcends enchantment/infatuation.
Mabus there are already university classes studying the Bible as literature. And I have doubts that your priest actually said those things to you I find that the religion is based on more love and forgiveness, universal things, than just scaring youths with threats of eternal damnation.
What does praying have to do with tight assed sadists? I’m not exactly a devout Christian, quite agnostic to be specific but tight assed sadists? I don’t pray. Gandhi didn’t pray to the Christian God, he wasn’t even Christian but he is considered to have gone to heaven based on living a good life.
Where does it say you’re not supposed to use the reason and good judgement you were given? It sure isn’t in the parts talking about making choices and free will.
And when did this become a religious debate? This was supposed help to get some quality time with the ladies. Debating theology ain’t gonna get any of us the luvin’ we deserve.
Sage, from your point of view what are the differences?
Go for it! You have nothing to loose…except her. So go for it!
Damn many posts on this thread, looks more like Bold and the Beautiful to me.
Chasing girls will mostly repel them only further. Shyness is not good if you’re not self-confident.
www.doubleyourdating.com (don’t let the title mislead you) - do yourself a favor and read. Helped me lots.
It looks kinda scamish, like they’re gonna sell my email address to spammers but I will give it the benefit of the doubt because it was mentioned by a member of this fine forum. When the spam floods my mail box. I will hunt you down 
Now there’s a contradiction in terms if I’ve ever heard one.
I’ve been reluctant to post in this thread since it appeared a week ago. Mostly this is because I’m the last person on Earth who anyone should talk to about advice on dating, but also because I generally object to the entire concept of blindly following your in-built instinct to reproduce at the expense of demonstrating at least some control over yourself. However, since the attack of Marbus, I think it’s time someone stood up for the poor Canadian.
I’ve had these exact same infatuations during my time at school. I even arranged my class schedule to align a greater portion of my time with hers. I never had a chance, and I knew that, but I couldn’t deny what I was feeling. I made contact every other day, but looking back I’m almost certain she considered me more of an annoying pest than a potential friend. It all happened again at my second job, and I found myself going to places I generally detest, like nightclubs and bars. It was blatantly obvious right away that I had nothing in common with either of those 2 people, but that had absolutely no effect on what I felt when I saw them.
I decided then that I was going to ignore that evolution-given programming that causes people to act like morons in an attempt to increase the population of their species. It takes effort to respond to my fathers’ generic girl-related taunts in a way that won’t result in another psychiatrist threat (or homosexuality acusation). People don’t appreciate me constantly telling them that they are nothing but robots, and it took a dangerously long time for me to realize this.
I guess I can’t really give you any advice that wouldn’t be insulting, so, run along and do what you’re designed to do. 
Athiest, do you mean you don’t have a girlfriend and never plan to or are you just opposed to degrading oneself to get one? Personally today I got over her, she’s always happy and smiling but I kinda get the feeling she wasn’t concerned with the possibility of never seeing me again. I may have misread her tone/body language but what ever. Plenty of cheerful beautiful women that . . . I’m sorry I can’t go on
j/k
If you could explain your philosophy I’d really appreciate it.
If you don’t mind, I also have another question, its kinda off topic but since Mabus started the whole religion discussion it kinda fits in. As for being an athiest, is it just because you don’t feel there’s anything out there 
, because it seems implausible 
, or are you antithiest or is it something else?
looks around for the FDAA
I downloaded the book… gimme e-mails and I’ll send em over.
But yeah, subscribe to that newsletter, no spam, but a lot of info. After a while when you start “getting it” most of the DATING TIP: titled ones are useless but Mailbags are always fun to read 
Athiest: What I meant is that if you play off the shyness intentionally when you have confidence just to see if it might work for you, not against, is not a bad thing.
But yeah: Bond, James Bond is the way of the walk 
I don’t have a girlfriend, and I never have. It just doesn’t fit with my utterly stereotypical lifestyle. This thread has so far encouraged a number of confessions from people who share your apparent shyness. It’s not uncommon. For me though, I don’t think ‘shy’ appropriate conveys my social condition. I find it uncomfortable to sit among (or near) people I don’t intimately know - let along begin or maintain a conversation with them. You can probably imagine this somewhat inhibits my ability to meet new people. I live in a small apartment, and never once pondered the idea of living with someone. None of this relates at all to my religious standing, it’s just an introduction.
For the above reason, I spend a lot of time by myself, or dazzling a bunch of imaginary people with my various daydream antics. I also spend what surprisingly seems to be an unhealthy amount of time contemplating religion, existence, and where I am in the grand picture. I say ‘unhealthy’, because so far I’ve only managed to degrade my enthusiasm for life with a series of demoralizing conclusions ranging from ‘life is pointless’ to ‘there is no such thing as free choice’. My brief attempts to share them with the members of this forum (among others) are usually met with hostility, and if often takes a drunken stumble through the night to properly explain it to a friend.
Anyway, that’s more or less why I’m not the right person to ask when it comes to dating. I look at people these days and I see robots going about their pointless ‘lives’ doing what they’ve been programmed to do - without even knowing why. There’s obviously more to it, but I don’t think this is the relevant topic to go into detail.
As for religion, I personally don’t believe anything exists outside what we can detect as part of the physical world. A lot of people were quick to dismiss this reality as simply one level of what is ultimately a multi-layered existence. There are 2 reasons why I don’t accept this idea. Firstly, because I (like everyone else) have not yet seen any evidence that there exists a secondary (and subsequent) ‘layer’ of reality. Secondly, I don’t see a need for them. Scientifically speaking, there is only one reason why you might theorize the existence of an unseen object or force - and that’s because something occurs which seemingly depends on the influence of said object or force. In this case, when I look around the physical world, I don’t see anything unexplainable that would merit any suspicion that there may be more to life than what we can detect with our 5 senses.
It’s a given that people will often refuse to believe that they are the insignificant result of a mostly chaotic system of meaningless events. Everyone wants to be special. They want to be reassured that everything they go through in life is all just the beginning of eternal bliss and paradise once they die. Hell, I know I’d like to believe that.
Atheist wrote:
“I see robots going about their pointless ‘lives’ doing what they’ve been programmed to do - without even knowing why”
Probobly because they just want sex, sex seems to drive our society these days. I guess when you think about it, people want sex so badly and are willing to do almost anything for it, and the damn thing only goes for about 5-10 mins if your lucky! 
Maybe im wrong, someone say otherwise!
Me I don’t really care to much about getting a girlfreind (though my freinds keep grilling me about it and say I should) But I don’t see much point, if it happens it happens, meh.
At least I still have my Video Games! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA… you still here? 
That’s exactly right, Chronos. It’s just how evolution works. The animal that grows to desire sex so much is going to be the one that reproduces enough to keep it’s species alive.
Everything really is painfully clear if you just step back a bit and look at life from where I spend most of my time.
i can tottally understand ur phisophy Ath and quite frankly it has passed my mind a few times as well. I can also understand ur reason for Atheistism (?). I find the phisophy very depressing indeed, so i think i’ll just chose to follow my robotic insticts. Ignorince is bliss. And if you think about it, it may not only be sex drive, but love. There was this line in a SOAD song that got me thinking of this more so. “Need the ones you love…and, love the ones that you need”. Love itself, the meaning of life itself for many, could very well just be insticts. But, as i said before, i prefere to give in. Allow myself to be ruled by my insticts. Who knows, maybe the only way to prove urself as a true human being is to deny these insticts, thus showing that your more than an animal. I still think I’d be happier ignorant. And on the atheist thing, i prefer to be more agnostic. Agnostic=Optimistic Atheist. Sure there isn’t any proof for, but there is none for proof against either. And there is the fact of how the universe got started…
P.S. How the hell did this talk about “getting a girl” turn into theology. This always seems to happen…
Atheist, would you like to be one of those happy, unrespectful, programmed robots…?
Sometimes, it is a GIFT, not to be happy.
I would even say: “happyness is the worst thing that could happen to you!”
Not?
JJJ
glances quickly around the room, spots no one suspiscious
“Chosenone-, I got the info you got the goods?”
Casually bumps intp Chosenone- and drops a slip of paper reading Raging_Canadian@yahoo.com into his pocket and walks swiftly away
Is it small enough to actually send my email? I only got 3ish MB left in my mailbox.
I dont think the world offers enough sex, i know everybody wants it, but its so hard to get across someone even if they wanted to have sex with you. People are too insecure and fear rejection. Its sick, people are so dependent on sex, they go on the streets for it and pay. This is an on-going business, and who do I think is responsible? But what i am saying now, is that no one wants to be rejected, but wants passion too. Even females want sex just as much as men, but they dont give it up as easy, they like to use sex for a sense of power. And what i mean about power is, you’ll do anything to defend, help, or continue to keep your woman happy. You matter what it takes men turn into slaves. So i think females should cut a little slack and cut all the drama. (Disclaimer…dont take advice…offense…or ideas, thats just my opinion)
People paying for sex! What has the world came to?
tupid:
Whats has this thread turn into???
For the lazy people lets recap:
So I read in the newspaper that prostitution is going high-tech. Almost pushing the pimps outta business. Hookers hooking up with guys in chatrooms. Except in Japan where pimps are embrassing technology and sending pictures of their women to the johns on their cellphones.
It really hasn’t come to anything - it’s always been this way. Prostitution is the world’s oldest profession.