NovaDreamer: any good?

Yes Djem at least you have to provide for some possible variation in intensity, also try to figure out something that makes it possible to set cue duration. Finding a decent cue is not easy and the “ideal” light cue differs from person to person.

I tested the TEF tonight. I could see the Flashing in my dream, but I woke up from it after about 5sec. I’m gonna try it again tonight and if I awaken that soon again im gonna do some modification (its just that im working under a very small budget)
If anyone knows anything about electronics and stuff like timing and LEDs I would be glad to get some help to improve the TEF (as metion, it has to cost as litle as posible) I think I easy will find a way to lower the intensity, but I don’t know how to get the thing to stop after a sort time in a cost effective way. (rater not use the RS counters)

Does anyone have some kind of instructions on have to use the novaDreamer as a Ld inducing device and not just as a messing with your dreams divice.

Well DJem, I don’t know so much about such stuff, bit I think you could use a potensiometer, or whatever it was called, for with them you can easily regulate the intensity of the LEDs. But do you use flashing LEDs? I have a alarm-clock that I can use, but it seems like it gives constant power when it rings. I have several constant-lighting LEDS, but I don’t know where to get the flashing ones.

I think the potensiometer should work fine unless the power has to be at 2.5V for it to light and that it wont light at all if u lower the power. But the only way to find out is to try it :smile:

about the blinking light. My clock gives a pip-pip-pip-pip then a brake then pip-pip-pip-pip again very fast so i’m using normal leds. I think your clock gives a pulse signal even if it ginda sounds like a clear signal since you awaken easyer from a non konstant sound. If it does give a konstant sound you can get blinking LEDs at ELFA.se but they take 100kr in shipments no mather how big the package is :sad:

You could use your computer to drive the LED’s. What I did was…
A) Made a .wav file.
B) Hooked a mono headphone plug with two stripped wires on the other end into my first amplified speaker (The first speaker is the Right one, so I hooked it into the Left jack). The plug came from a $5 earpiece thing.
C) Hooked the LED onto the stripped wires. Polarity is probably important, but I have a whole box of LEDs…
D) Started playing the .wav file on permanent repeat, with the volume low. Cranked up the volume until it started flashing.

The file I made is a pretty simple one, but I don’t understand exactly how it works. I would think that I’d want a square wave (in my sound editor), with the first segment at 0 and the other at +1, but that didn’t work. So I used a pulsing square wave type of thing…

Anyway, if you have any electronics knowledge, you can probably figure it out better than I. What I was thinking you’d do, is make an hour long wav file, with the correct pattern to turn on/off the LED’s after so long, then just use that and forget the rest of the electronics stuff. You do need amplified output though. Some soundcards (AWE32) have it built in, but others need an external amplifier (usually in the form of speakers).

The file I made is at…
downloads.come2store.com/hypnoboo/ledpulse.wav

Your results will probably vary, depending on how powerful your speakers are and the type of LED you’re using.

Thats not a bad idea, but I would like not to use the computer since it making too much sound, but maybe a cassettapeplayer with a timed el.plug would work, i’ll think about it :smile: thanks for the Idea

Well about that LED, I tried to connect it to the alarm-clock with a 9V battery in between (I don’t have any holder for 1.5V, only for 9V batteries), and it lit constant (I put a 1kOhm resistor in between to make sure it wouldn’t blow up :smile: ). The potensiometer worked fine. It had 47 kOhm, I think. Well maybe someone knows about how to make a circuit which will make it flash? That would be better that using flashing LEDs, because then I could just throw in a couple of potensiometers and be able to regulate both the frequency and intensity of the LEDs seperatelly, if I understand it right.

If U use altering current (AC) connected to the LEDs it will flash (its a diode you know) To do tish you can take a batery charger and connect the LEDs before the AC-DC bridge U can then serial conect this with the alarmclock and it will flash (every time the + and - colide you won’t get a light) but be careful with the voltage so you dont desrtoy your LEDs nor your alarmclock :smile:

Think this will work, never tried it but its seems logical

Well maybe I find a way of making AC without messing around with high voltage :smile: 220V is VERY nasty you know :crazy:

You don’t have to mess with 220V (220V is not high voltage) What I was talking about is after the trafo and shouldn’t be more that 2-9V or so. And as long as you mess with the charger while its disconnected you wont be in dangure for getting 220V trough you. Just remeber to connect the leds at the secudary side, not the primary :smile:

I take electronics GCSE (but I aint the best :tongue:)
Have you tryed adding a monostable timer?

Just let me tell you that our polish sciencists are working on Nova Dreamer also.It should be available in july/september ,same features but the price will not go over 100 dollars.Ill keep you updated if anyones interested.
Take care

Hey, that’s pretty good news!!!

:partying_face: :partying_face: :beer:

I think many people are interested in devices like this, but $275 is far too expensive.

Please keep us updated Jack, and long live those polish scientists!

Well, I still think $100 is alitle too much. It’s many things I would use $100 at than LD-galsses, so I will continue to develop my TEF :smile:

I haven’t heard about monostable timer before, but I will look into it (only taken 1yr basic electro)
BTW. your avatar is alitle big, the limits are 65x65 or something :smile:

There was this friend I had in high school (and another in college) who had these glasses with LEDs in them. They weren’t dream machines per se but you put them on and the lights simply flashed. My friend said that one time he was wearing them and as the lights flashed images started to appear, at first just swirling light but then turning concrete and before he knew it he was in a dream but awake. Sounds a lot like the techniques where you fall asleep while remaining conscious. This was before I had heard of lucid dreams but I always wanted to try the glasses and never got a chance. Anyone ever heard of these?
I think that they were on the cheaper side… maybe thirty. Anyone ever tried these or know where to get them?

Hi im new here.
i thought i just mite add how i have my lucid dreams.
firstly i reckon all the goggles etc are a wastage.
if you want to have lucid dreams there is only one way the long way.
i use a laptop plugged into a small speaker above my head on my bed. i use one of the programs you can download around the place to give you the cue in a certain time. i use the sound “you are dreaming” and after about 2 weeks of dissapointment it comes trust me
keep at it all the people who cant do it its worth the time.

by the way i suggest if you want to use the speaker approach that you make sure they dont make much bass. i experimented with it and i found that bass woke me up outside the dream but high tone did not.

sounds like the glasses to me, you are just using sound insted of light. Both is effecting the dream so it should work. I think I might try with both on at once. If you start see flashing light in your dream while someone are saying to you that you are dreaming, I think you’ll take the hint :smile:

The only one problem is that i dont sleep much, only about 1-3 hours a night and i dont know when im gonna go 2 sleep :bored:

Typical problem. I guess It will balance soon and you’ll sleep 13hr or more (happend to me) If not you might have a problem, 1-3hr of sleep is way to litle.

I have a NovaDreamer which I use on and off… not much success yet… I have seen flashes incorporated into dreams (explosions, etc.) that I have only recognized when I woke up, but I haven’t been seeing any lately… I have it cranked up to the Deep Sleeper setting (very bright, loud, and long), with a high sensitivity (giving 30+ cues per night)… it boggles my mind that I really don’t notice that, because otherwise, I’m a pretty light sleeper. The other thing that makes it difficult is that it is quite uncomfortable to wear, limiting sleeping positions (I like to bury my face in or under the pillow… you pretty much need to be on your back for the ND’er).
I think it would be most useful in combination with some success with other techniques, but I’ve been not very successful with anything :-(.

Peace,
Sruthan