Hey, somebody else help me out here then infection0! I’m going pretty slow as it is, but I’m sure somebody out there* has some cool ideas!
At the moment I’ll be adding new pages for each reality check. On each of them, I want how to do it, when you can do it (apart from regularly) (e.g. mirror reality check - obviously, do it every time you see a mirror!), why it works (if known) and a bunch of examples of it working and not working.
Woo, I’ve done quite a lot recently. Thanks to tapir for adding LILD, he even thought to PM me to ask me if he’de done it correctly!
Unfortunately, I have not found any anecdotes whatsoever of LILD working. I’m considering removing it until I do find some. I do remember pasQuale once had a dream where a DC would remind her whenever she forgot but that was only within the single dream.
With a bit of talking with the inventor of the CAT technique it may be added in full to the wiki.
I am considering adding a “traffic-light” system where each technique recieves a traffic light colour depending on how much research has been done on the technique (green) or how many anecdotes have been found of it working (green/yellow, yellow, red). Unfortunately, LILD would go in red, as I haven’t read of it working. VILD would have to go in yellow, because I’ve only heard of it working for Pedro. MILD and WILD would be in green.
Yes, a color system that indicates wether a technique is just an idea, is working for some people or many people is certainly useful for beginners
Much better than deleting methods that don´t seem to work imho, since this way the wiki won´t be only a place for newbies to learn what lucid dreaming is, but also a interesting read for people who know about all the basic techs to get some inspiration what could be tried
It isn’t “just an idea”, it’s just that nobody seems to have reported it as working! I know a possible reason, but I don’t want to say; you can work it out yourself by looking at the technique carefully.
As far as I can see, there aren’t many new ideas around right now. I’m beginning to feel everybody here who gives advice repeat themselves, which is partly what the wikibook attempts to solve - if everybody can add, it’ll have everybody’s advice, hopefully with the best wording too!
Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:00 pm:
By the way, I never meant it to be only for newbies. It’s meant to be complete. I don’t mind infection0 calling it “Indispensible for newbies”, though . If it was indispensible then, what is it now?
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:53 pm:
I’m going to put a full list of topics on the wikibook soon. If anybody wants to beat me to it… well, your choice!
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:01 pm:
OK, I’m getting quite pissed off now, as nobody’s helping. So I’m copying the description which I previously wrote here in hope to attract people again.
Well, so far, about 24 pages have been written (yes, that’s right, 24!) and 20 pages of handy material sit in the Appendixes section. But it needs proofreading, checking, adding, and re-organising.
Second link in my signature. And sorry if that sounds nasty.
In other news, I’m going to add that “traffic-light” system I mentioned earlier.
Recently I have found that more people than I thought have read the wikibook and now I’de like to do a quick poll on who’s read it, how they’de rate it, and what needs to be added.
In other news, I did add the traffic-light system. I need to update the “forum topic” lists. I also used a bit of wiki magic to fix up the design on the Using page really nicely (compare to the old version). The LD FAQ in Appendixes was fixed up very nicely. The “Interpreting Dreams” section is coming along nicely. A lovely banner and conclusion were added at the end of LD Using. And that’s about it.
I’m getting really pissed off now (again), but not because nobody is contributing: there have been plenty of anonymous contributions recently and a fourth author just joined yesterday!
No, I’m pissed off because there’s a vote and I’m on the losing side. So I’de like to ask more people to vote, and hopefully things might swing to my point-of-view.
The vote is over!
I recommend you read the “LILD discussion” section too before voting. It won’t take long!
I don’t meanto add to your frustration. But I didn’t understand the link you put in your post. I read through the LILD topic and it seemed quite erratic. But prehaps I was skimming through it to fast.
What vote? I didn’t even see something to do with voting on the page.
I don’t understand this either. Is this the vote? Is this an argument, or just to contadictor statments near each other?
Sorry to piss you off further, but what is the topic about? It’s like reading the middle of an article.
Wow, how did you get your wikibook to be visitedthat much? Did you advertise.
To vote, you just add your username to the end of one of those last two lines.
In the first paragraph, I gave two links to help people understand what I’m talking about: there’s a LILD section in the wikibook, but I haven’t found any anecdotes of it working (second link). I know why it doesn’t work, too (first link). So I want to remove it.
tapir, who originally added LILD to the book, posted below the voting why he thinks it should stay. Then I replied (my reply is indented). The discussion continues further down.
Any questions?
PS No, I didn’t advertise. Except for various signatures…
Oh yeah, that image needs to be public domain or GPL. Elsewise whap off it has to go. In fact, I just checked the site and it’s copyright. I took it off. Sorry.