I agree. Leave them alone. If they ask how hard it is I will just say it depends on how hard you choose to make lucid dreaming. I will still say make it easy on yourself, but prehaps I won’t overload them with opinions.
THis topic is a good example of what could happen when you overload them with opinions.
Oops, you may be right, I read somewhere that your subconscious doesn’t understand sarcasm, or any jokes for that matter.
Dunno if that’s the casre though, 'cos it’s constantly playing pranks on me.
So you shouldn’t joke to the newbies.
I read something about AP once that said, “the only thing you have to worry about is having a heart attack,” in the first paragraph. Funnily enough, I’ve ignored it ever since.
I beleive there is a new danger. If you hold your breath, you can pass out or die. No joking. So I suggest you don’t try to sufficate your self in an LD, or in RL for that matter.
Back onto topic, I am also against ever telling them that it’s hard. Because it’s not. Lucid dreaming is easy. I don’t understand why people fidn it hard. THey just make it hard. THey have to stop wanting lucidity so hard.
I just have to say this, because my teacher said it and didn’t understand why everyone was laughing at him. I guess this debate has become popular, and so we aught to call it a mass debate. Ha, ha, not funny!! Awww, it wasn’t a bad attempt at humor!?
But we enjoy messsing with your minds. It means you will never be able to leave the forum again. Plants idea into heads
I’ll pop in and just cough towards a relevant section of the wikibook which hasn’t even been changed since the debate started:
(the underlines are mine)
This is called Neutral point of view. I think that I’ll just pop in and say that I agree with what people seem to have arrived at, which is NPOV, so I win.
Yes, but it talks about how one can make it hard for themselves, not easy. You must give them a NPOV while tellling them how some people have mamnaged to make it easy.
I’m not sure it’s completely a NPOV, because it talks about how to make it hard for themselves.
Darn. I keep posting as the avatar reaper when I’m logged in. Sorry.
You can’t kill yourself by holding your breath. If you hold it for long enough, you pass out. Once you pass out, you automatically begin breathing again.
yep, that is a age old trick that little kids use on their parrents to get their way, if only parents knew thet their kids wouldnt die. they will give up. but if the kids see results then they keep at it. it is very dangours and yep you are right jon you do lose a far few brain cells lol. may as well ut a drink in their hands and tell em 2 drink
Yes it can. There was a another negative statement in wikibooks I don’t remember it exactly. I’ll have to read it again later and see if I can find it. Again it was not intentional but could be subliminal.
As I see it here are the facts:
Lucid dreaming can be learned by anyone and is easy.
Despite fact # 1 a lot of people are struggling with it.
As you saw when we tried to send the positive message that LD ing is easy the reaction from some people was hostile. It was taken (wrongly) as an insult to there efforts ro have LD ‘s.
So we can’t say it is easy. But I don’t think just telling them that it takes practice and patience is being helpful to people either.
So the question remains. How do we help people who are struggling in a way that is beneficial to them?