The BIG WILD Topic - Part XI

Has anyone tried the “forcing WILD” technique?
I tried it and got buzzing in my ears. But I may have moved after I woke up or opened my eyes before. It looks like it can work easily. No need to count or anything! Just pop open your eyes when you wake up!

Slash posted it on another forum… (but who invented it?)

Do you still have to close your eyes again and wait afterwards or are you already in the dream? RC’s will be needed I think to clarify this…

https://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3279

Quoting the technique:

[i]Hi, this is just my own way (kind of) of inducing WILD.

First you just sleep as usual, then at times your dream just fades away
smoothly and you realize your lying on your bed. now, just stay like
that for a while, then just immediately POP open your eyes!!
this will induce a WILD state. I’ve succeeded by using this 4 times.
but freaked out the first two times, and the third time, it just went away
and I woke up. The last time, I stayed calm and the ringing disappeared
and I thought if I opened my eyes I’ll see a dream scenery, but just as
I tried to open my eyes, my body started moving un-intentionally.
after awhile, it ended, and I flet myself in my bed again. so I got up and
wrote about it.

I heard this method works well if you sleep on your back facing the ceiling
or if your taking a nap during the day.
Next time I’m going to try to keep my eyes opened. (mentally)
the first time I did that I saw my room filling with colors and lights.
[/i]

I imagine this question has been asked more times than I can apprehend, but what position should I sleep in? I have a hard time falling asleep on my back, and it’s far more comfortable for me to sleep on my side or face down. I’ve just recently decided to start trying WILD, so I’m not very knowledgeable about the subject.

Is WILD pretty much an on-the-back exclusive method?

You should read through the entire post, this has been answered a few times already. The position doesn’t really matter. But in general it’s easyer to WILD it you lie in an uncomfortable position.

Thanks. And I’d rather just ask than read through 11 threads to find my answer. :happy:

I hope people try the ‘forcing WILD’ so we can see how effective it is…
seems like a ‘real’ shortcut into WILD…

No. I have not tried it. I only vaguely remember hearing about it somewhere.

From the description I am not sure it would really be a short cut. It sounds more like the rolling out of your body or sitting up from SP. In this case you are just opening your eyes. I am not saying it won’t work. I just don’t think it would be a “short cut”.

Happy Dreaming :smile:

It would either get you into a dream straight away, or you’d be in the SP stage once more perhaps. So you can easily get into an LD.

It sounds to me like you would have to be in to sleep paralysis already in order for this to work. In which case it would be easy to enter the dream anyway. ( unless I am misunderstanding something) :hmmm:

Happy Dreaming :smile:

Dm7

I am going to try your spinning technique tonight again. I tried the night before last but, it did not work out. Last night I did not do any LD inductions I was to tired. Anyway, I am going to try again tonight. It sounds promising. How well does it work for you?

Happy Dreaming :smile:

It works like a charm if my concentration skills are high; however, if my concentration skills are low… well it won’t work at all.

I have various techniques to cooperate with my ablitity this day. It always varies. You know?

But… spinning technique remains to be my favorite technique. :happy:

Dm7

Yes I know what you mean. Different techniques work better on different days for me. I always like to learn different techniques and skills. I find that if I rely on just one it gets boring and then does not work as well. I believe it is good to change them around once in a while.

No success with your technique last night but, I got closer. I could feel it. I did have 2 nice DILD and a cool ND.

Happy Dreaming

read this topic I posted, its soo funny: https://community.ld4all.com/t/first-wild-expercience/10188 :tongue:

I think it could induce SP, but I’m not sure. I tried it and think I had some fuzzy vision for a second but it faded to normal. So no automatic WILD for me this night…

I’m not sure. Perhaps it’s nothing at all. Yhat’s why I asked whether people could try it, besides myself.

To be honest I am not sure what he/she does so it would be hard to reproduce. He/she may have found a way to induce a trance or something.

Keep expairamenting :smile:

Interesing that you say this. I find I must lie in a comfortable position or else I will not be able to relax enough.

Hey Milod :happy:

Ah…such an optimist, you are… true, I have had about 6 WILDs and a few DILDs but usually only on the weekends. This morning I had two low level LDs (yay!) induction of which I will post below in a reply to “aethiest.” Besides that, I continue to do RCs (was lazy for a while but now doing 10-12 a day). My dream recall has suffered, but I think this is because I am getting less sleep during the week than I would like (6 1/2 7 hrs)…

Ok, I finally tried your technique this morning and I think it worked. Basically, I focused on my body until I noticed slight harbingers of SP -at this point I stopped focusing on my body (I’ve learned in the past that if I continue to pay too much attention the heavy sp effects will just keep me too alert and awake). At this point I begin imagining a simple scene of a room and an object. Suddenly, I found that the scene was becoming more and more real…I did an RC and found that I was dreaming! This worked two consecutive times to induce a LD this morning. The third time it failed. On the failed attempt I tried to imagine a scene but somehow became too aware of my own reflection that it pulled me into consciousness…

so, anyway, this type of visualization technique may have some promise for me as focusing on HI hasn’t worked for me and other visualization techniques -i.e. white dot, etc also haven’t worked…

another nice thing about the two successful attempts - they worked really fast. I’d estimate no more than 5-10 minutes…

Thanks for this :wink:

Pleban

Yes, I too find that sleeping in a comfortable position is better. A while ago I got a new bed that was not comfortable and my WILD’S went way down until I adapted to it.

8 LD ’s for you and counting. :thumbs:

Happy Dreaming :smile:

Totaly, man, cause I was on my stomach, not my back and I got the WILD to work.

Milod:

Don’t forget not to concentrate so hard. Just let it come naturally. Try to feel yourself spinning and let it continue spinning for you without having to concentrate. It’s like watching the fire dancing automatically without thinking about it. Let’s visualize the camp fire… it dances automatically without you thinking about it right?

Try that with the spinning technique. Get it to the point where it becomes automatic and constant then you can just let your consciousness go a bit by a bit. When it works, you should suddenly be awaken in a SP spinning in your illusion body. You can just take a leap into your dream world. :smile:

Good luck!!! You’re getting closer!