Well yes and no. While it is true that we may be powerless to stop a natural disaster like another ice age or something. We can and should prepare for such an event. Then we can prepare and possibly adapt to it. I mean even in the event that a comet where to hit the earth there is always the possibility that some people would survive afterwards. Scientist have speculated that the earth was struck by a comet once already and life survived. We know the earth as seen several ice ages and again life survived. Knowledge brings hope and ignorance leads to disaster.
Also, there are many man made disasters that could happen and we can certainly stop that. I hope.
exactly, i wasn’t saying we shouldn’t act but that we shouldn’t worry
we always make our choices by weighing things up and trying to live to a full extent, but there’s no point in worrying, or fear…etc
if we knew a comet was going to hit in 1 month say…
we could still prepare, plan , try to avert it, fight it…etc but whether we succeed or not there’d be no reason to worry or be afraid
The whole no reason to worry thing, I’d like to see someone who isn’t worried about impending death and is sane. I don’t think that fear has no purpose, and is useless. For an immediate response our bodies release adreniline because of it which allows us to run faster. Of course this would do no good if an asteroid was gonna hit. But if no one was worried about an asteroid hitting us, then none would be discovered and no defences would be ready for if one comes. It is because people are worried that there are systems in place to detect asteroids, and fear may be our only hope.
Anyway, I agree with everyone that it is very unlikely.
There has been a lot of talk on this forum and others about the year 2012. Some people think many people will die, others think that everyone will evolve. This is all because the Mayan calendar ends in 2012. Now I’ve got a question for everyone. Why do we assume their right? Just because they said something was going to happen why do we believe them. There is a weird thing now, where people assume that people who live before us know so many things that we don’t because they are the “ancients”, they must be clever. There are people who only take ancient herbal medecines and disregard medical science because the ancients must be right. Over the times that humans have been alive, knowledge has built on knowledge. Humans have found out more about the universe from previous knowledge. I don’t think that any important knowledge has been lost, as important things are passed on.
I see no possible way that they could have predicted the future and the knowledge to do that has been lost, it doesn’t make sense.
That is more or less the point I was trying to make. At some point the earth will experience another catastrophic event. It may not be in our lifetime but, there is no way to know that for sure. If we do not take these potential threats seriously then we will not be prepared to deal with the situation when it happens. As things stand right now. Most people would not know what to do in the event of a local disaster let alone some sort of global event.
i guess it’s a matter of accepting death, adrenaline can still be employed in severe conditions even if you’re not afraid,
surely the OBE student or NDE survivor who no longer fears death is still sane?
i think it’s possible to be ok with death and still try to avert it, it’s commonly said to prepare for death is to prepare for life and to live it to a fuller extent
yes fear has it’s good points but you’d agree it has bad points too? and that calmness or happiness has good and possibly bad points too?
then why not learn to choose one over the other if you think one has better good points?
anyway it doesn’t matter either way, whether we live in fear of something or not, both ways are equal we just feel different depending on what we employ
Well the Maya’s Belived that the Earth would end in the year 2012. Its said that their dates of the stars and planets etc are the most accurate out of all the ancient civilizations. Excitingly frightening is it not.
Chi Swordsman - Even with an OBE or NDE I think there is still some doubt as to what will happen when you die, so I think any sane person would at least be apprehensive.
Yes, you’re right fear and happiness both have good points and bad points, thats why you need some of both, and why we have evolved to have some of both.
we have ALL points of both that we know of though, if we only used certain parts of fear how would we know any other parts existed?
i’m simply proposing the theory, why not decide what we want to use?
whenever there is something to be feared and you are afraid… in that moment if you break it down with a clear mind it comes down to weighing up options/risk and acting on whatever choice you like better, (we simply try to be at our best)
do you agree?
if that’s what it comes down to, where does fear reside what’s it’s purpose? emotions are surely simply layered over the top of the situation
,it’s a blanket that sits on ‘wieghing up options and acting’ (not a good or bad thing that’s just what it seems to do)
it makes certain options/risk that you are weighing up seem more important in your mind, and may well influence the decision…(sometimes good, sometimes bad)
the thing is if we don’t know what the outcome with each emotion layered would be… then they may all be equal risk… so why not choose which we want? sometimes fear might fair better as an influential blanket
but i’d wager happiness and peace would come out in front…
their positive attributes include some of the strongest in my opinion
(a clear mind, calm, confidence…etc)
um… what’s the worst that mass hysteria causes? If the world is going to end,do you think anyone would care if a few cars get turned over or something? for some reason I found your post hilarious… dunno why, maybe I’m weird.
i saw something today maybe interesting.
according to very very old persian religion biliefs human life seprated to 4, 3 thousands years. and we are in the 4th.
the 4th begin with the birth of ZARTOSHT and iranian holy man that got a book. i dont know the date of his birth ,sorry but i can search.
it is interesting that old native cultures and other areas got the same belifes.
I would be alot more concerned about the Yellowstone Park super volcano erupting than worrying about an asteroid hitting us. the Volcano erupts ever 600,000 years, and right now its 40,000 years over-due and there have been signs in the park that the ground is rising and many earthquakes have been happening in that area.
Yep. When Yellowstone goes up it’ll change the world in a big way. I definately take the 2012 prediction seriously. The astrological alignment due to take place in 2012 is accepted fact with modern day scientists, and we have never seen anything like it in our history. The debatable part of the prediction is whether it will be accompanied by equally dramatic events on earth or not. I would say the Mayans have proved that what they said deserves respect, just by getting the first part right.
I agree with Chi Swordsmans posts. There is possibly a time for fear to be utilised… but the ‘problem’ (from where I’m sitting at least) is that we missed a great opportunity to have a good/love filled time. I mean lately we havent had asteroids flying at us, or tigers jumping at our throats. And yet we are so keen on worrying about things that where we havent had ‘natural’ problems to fear, we’ve created our own. This will just make any ‘natural’ fear-inducing event even worse. If we had, for example, established a Nation of Humanity, or some kind of system based on Unity/Love (instead of Seperation/Fear) we could all focus on preparing/minimising the impact of such natural disasters instead of wasting time fighting each other. There is even the idea that the state of the ‘natural’ world is linked to our state of consciousness, and so if we were on a higher Love level there wouldnt even BE natural disasters!
But then if we hadnt followed the path we have done, I wouldnt be sitting here typing this so its no good regretting anything… this is where we find ourselves.
The way you feel about life-after-death has a huge impact on how you feel about something like this. Some people have a rock-solid, unbreakable belief that there is ‘life-after-death’, based on introspective enquiry AND personal experience… And some spiritual schools encourage meditating on your death every single day, as soon as you wake up in the morning. So the day when a comet comes hurtling down isnt really going to rattle those people as much as those who Fear death, regardless of whether there is actually an afterlife or not. If, as I believe, there is an afterlife then sure it would be NICE if humanity could sort its act out… but, once you pan out a level, it wouldnt really matter one way or the other. Either way, the Universe is expressing itself. An ‘Atheist’ could come to the same conclusion, of course.
And finally, on the subject of whether it is ‘sane’ to believe certain things or not:
I was once told by a qualified proffessional that having “deep, philosophical thoughts” is a sign of the onset of mental illness.
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I thought that by saying that, she was displaying signs of mental illness. So ‘sanity’ is very relative…
about statistics. standard deviation is given the symbol sigma. probability within 1 sigma is about 66.7% or so, within 2 sigma is 96.7%, and within 3 sigma is 99.7%. although most of you would agree .3% is rather small, it isn’t. i haven’t looked into what this is, but theres some business practice called six sigma. as you can imagine, it’s a really really small percentage. i think it’s about having the chances that products not be defunct be within six sigma. otherwise people would sue you for mass amount of bad products.
personally, all this death in the future stuff makes me pessimistic, so i’d rather just to stick the present.
The same thing happened to me in the year 2000 also. Oh well, next time…
