The draft is for ages 18 to 26 I believe.
Doesn’t Matter What You See?
Or into it What You Read
You Can Do it Your Own Way
If It’s Done Just How I Say
…
Soldier boy, made of clay
now an empty shell
twenty one, only son
but he served us well
Bred to kill, not to care
just do as we say
finished here, Greeting Death
he’s yours to take away
Back to the front
you will do what I say, when I say
Back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
Back to the front
you coward
you servant
you blindman
…
Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
Please, please
spreading his disease, living by his story
Knees, knees
falling to your knees, suffer for his glory
You will
Time for lust, time for lie
time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
and you’ll get a better seat
Bow to Leper Messiah
…
and finally
Timothy Leary sample:
Think for yourself
Question authority
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening,
terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in
this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the
religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by
giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their
view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and
learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness;
chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.
Think for yourself.
Question authority.
It’s very foolish to kill a man because someone tells you to.
A. Justin- you’re a fu… freakin dumbass. And I know you know it too. You say it more than I do.
B. It is foolish to kill a man because someone tells you to.
C. Did this Timothy Leary fellow every realize that if someone read this then thought for themselves, they would be doing the exact opposite of what he told them to do, by doing what he told them to do, because he told them to think for themself and don’t pay attention to the authority.
D. True authority comes from Experience in a field of which you can be called an authority.
E. Y’all suckas got served.
C. Did this Timothy Leary fellow every realize that if someone read this then thought for themselves, they would be doing the exact opposite of what he told them to do, by doing what he told them to do, because he told them to think for themself and don’t pay attention to the authority.
probably… it doesn’t matter. You have to have something make you start questioning authority, if you live in a society that says it is wrong you will not naturally do so very easily, except for teen years, but religion or peer pressure or fear of damnation or just chastisement from family can prevent you from ever questioning anything, hence you adopt idenitity foreclosure and just be whatever everyone else that shapes your beliefs is.
Paraodxes aren’t necessarily paradoxes either, our language is just limited… his quote, if taken seriously, might spark a general interest, and might spark you to agree with him in theory, which a long way down the right might make you live up to what he is talking about.
And if so, you wouldn’t be following him, you’d just be taking a little bit of his advice… if you just do whatever he says then you aren’t following him to begin with, so…
As I said, paradoxes suck, you can be alone in a crowd, no matter what the literal meaning implies, hence the futile nature of obsessing over the seemingly contradictory.
yeah… so anyways… why do all you crazy people have “Wu” in your in names?
and i just posted random quotes because i was lazy and didn’t feel like saying something that has already been said by famous people better than I can… it’s also a Tool cliche to tell people to think for themselves, so I found it fun to use him.
i wouldnt kill someone because i was told to.i think for myself all the time,not my fault i alsways screw up because of it though.The reason to kil would be because i could duh.another thing that guy whom you wrote down about was prettty smart but i dont think i should listen to that you know,but very smart i must admit.
2.i am not stupid for what i wrote think about it everypone has thought about killing.Below all the tolerance & self control you see on tv you know you want to.that is what ld is for but you dont get the rush you would probably normally get.
I don’t agree with what you said. I don’t think it would take one kill and you would want more. Do you think the people that killed people in the 1960’s are happy because of it and have to control themselves from killing anyone around them, just for the enjoyment of blood?
if the draft does occur i am not afraid to say it. i would chicken out and leave the country. my parents already told me they would help me get out. I don’t care if people think it is “lame” or that i am a “coward.” My choice is what I choose to do. I refuse to die for your government and suffer for your religion!
people in the 60 probably didnt like it but i mean i wouldnt really mind it,i think.I seen blood i liked it alot.the flow,the smell,the color,the taste it is intoxicating i think.one having views like this could be driven to a mad state to want more and more becoming a monster of war.also nic if you choose to run away just have a good reason to like not dying then well no one should care.and if your parents are cool wit it then go wit it.
Let me get this right.
You would join a war so you can KILL FUCKING INNOCENT PEOPLE?
Iraqi soldiers, American soldiers, it’s all the same, a bunch of naive pawns and idealists being manipulated to kill in the name of something.
We can kill, yes, we are capable of it, yes, there are circumstances where we’d enjoy it, but talk to any damn veteran about what they went through, none of them are happy about it… aside from the psychopaths perhaps… which really have no place in a functioning society.
I’m hoping you’re pretty young and will grow out of this way of thinking, there is nothing noble about killing, there is nothing fun about killing, there is no good reason to kill, period.
So say you go to war against Iraq, to “defend America” and you feel good about killing people that are, just like you, trying to defend their country, too? That makes no sense.
They have families too, they have feelings too… killing is entirely pointless.
Even if someone was attacking me for no reason and I killed him, I wouldn’t feel good about it, in the moment i was doing it, and right when it was over, I might have enjoyed it, have felt good in winning against him, in defending myself, but it’s nothing I’d be happy about in the long run, and nothing I’d want to do again.
So let me ask you, if you could do whatever you wanted and never get caught, would you run around killing people?
I agree. There are many situations where I might be forced to kill a person. To defend my life, my family, in defense of someone else, and the right to be free. But, only if there was no other option and I would never feel good about it. Even if I were completely justified. I would most likely feel worse about my self because I could not come up with a another solution.
holy reality i am 15 so i will probably grow out of it.and yes if i could run around doing what i wanted i would kill i would try to make genocide.you may wonder which race and i would tell you but it wouuld ignite tooo much of an argument ,but it isnt the jews they suffered enough. i think if someone were attacking me for no reason i may hold off on the kil but then would be left with no choice or grow bored then have fun with it.You did make a good point about the iraqi people i never thought of it that way,but still i…hmmm i wonder about myself sometimes sorry nevermind.now i understand why people call me natzi and racist ooops man i messed up alot crap.
i’m not going to even comment on that… other than
is a much better solution than genocide, which might interest you.
holy reality
That site is out there !!! Even for you.
lol. I like it. I’m joining.
no way am i joining that i like women too much too give up on a chance too mate hehehe i like women.
Now that is a scary thought. 
it never says no sex, it says NO HAVING KIDS
which means MORE SEX if you play you cards right.
I figure like, maybe radiation or chemical sterilization would be nifty… no need for surgery and sharp things in my pants… ughhh…
but yeah I’m a member of VHEMT, what with being a virgin and not liking kids… lol.
It’s a great site though, I guess it’s serious, too.
oh okay hmm i might join since it is only no more kids (i should read more 
)
looks like NO drafts, except in sports.
And about the VHEMT. Neat! I don’t think it says anything about adopting children who have already been born, if you’re really bent on having kids. What is so prescious about your genetic material anyway.
Shinta of Wu, it’s not worth commenting on your ridiculous statements about genocide, but it is worth saying that despite your best intentions the odds are that you would not like killing. Before modern military methods were developed the US and the UK had excellent evidence that only 2% of soldiers actually fired their weapons to kill. 1% of those people were psychos and loved killing, 1% were true heros who had ‘flexible morals’ that allowed them to kill the ‘enemy’. Now about 90% or more of US and UK soldiers shoot to kill, but they still have no solutions for the small problem of mentally dealing with killing people and being in a war. Most people are still horribly mentally scarred for life after the experience and never recover, those that like it either go on to kill civilians or join the special forces - and then generally kill civilians or themselves.