CILD--BenDrummin58's Method

I think this is just a form of WILD, but whatever, looks like it works.

it is a form of WILD

heh I tried this method last night and I didn’t get the idea from this topic.

last night I had a poor night to say the least. I was sweating so much and was super hot. I couldn’t get more then 1 to 2 hours of sleep in and when the alarm went off instead of going back to bed it woke me up.

I counted to 400 but saying “I’m dreaming” after each number.

I didn’t get anything except 1 HI which was the most absurd image ever yet incredibly vivid.

I only saw it for a second.

It was the picture of the last supper but instead of Jesus there was Hitler there in his place… odd.

But maybe I’ll try again tonight.

gonna try that tonite :smile:

well garlic…if u had a bad night and were sweating…thats not very good to dream good. lol. hitler thing sounds…weird.

i would’ve tried it last night but my internal clock woke me up about 15 minutes before my alarm should have… and i forgot to try the technique because i naturally woke up. sucked, oh well… i’m thinking i’ll set my alarm way earlier in the day today so it won’t be so fresh in my mind what time i plan on getting up.

only problem is, if i do that i have to pay attention to what time i go to bed… pretty much eliminating the purpose. oh well, i guess i’ll just have to try again tonight and hope my internal clock doesn’t screw things up for me.

heh…i have no internal clock…lol. i never wake up before 10 hours unless i have an alarm

counting method is how I started my wbtb+wild practice
it is an ok method to learn the point where logic and consciousness drift off and the mindless sleep mind takes over

Im gonna try tonight, Ill post the results tomorrow!

you, my friend are truly ■■■■■■ up.

tried this method twice. Both time failed :sad:

i tried this method last night, but instead of counting from 1 to 400 i counted from 400 to 1. Before doing that i said a couple of times i’m going to do a RC when I reach 1.

sometimes, i counted like; 234. 233. 232. 231 230. 239. 238. 237… oh i had that… 226… 224.

or i drift a little away, and it goes like; 234. 233. 232… (silence) … where have i been? oh i think i must be by 225 now… 225. 224. 223.

at last, i had very much trouble counting good,… but then, i found myself at the point to do an RC. I did an nose-RC and i could breathe. It felt like i was moving an “ghost” arm to my nose, and that’s why i could still breathe. anyway, i said to myself; “hey, i’m dreaming” (in dutch :tongue:). I got up, so i was sitting, at least, that was how it feeled. But i couldn’t see anything! i said: light! there will be light so that i can see! But nothing happenend… i lost consciousness and (fell asleep, or i woke up,… don’t know.

but i had succes… the only problem was that i only had a “ghostly” sensation of my body, i could breathe to my nose with my arm on it… but i couldn’t see!

Does somebody have any tips what i do wrong?
I’m going to try tonight again.

oh, and btw, never had an LD before (well, one accidentally) and there was no technique that worked so well the first time :smile: (other techniques don’t really seem to work, only the the HI-wild-technique brought me somewhere… but not so close as this time)

Isaac - I think you where in non-REM or also called the black void :smile: I’ve been there once and then I went into a LD from there, I was in the void for maybe a few seconds. Or it felt like seconds, it could have been much longer though. I don’t think you can do that much in the void, you just have to wait there until the next REM begins.

/edit/ I thought that I would try counting while meditating just for fun. I visualised the numbers while I was counting. I took about 10 minutes and I had counted slowly up to almost 200 when my body started feeling very strange :bored: When I reached 200 and started over again from 0 I found it very hard to stay calm since I haven’t had this feeling in years :cool_laugh:

My hands started feeling like they sort of wheren’t there and my body seemed distorted and strange. I can’t really describe it but I will deffinately try counting when I go to sleep tonight :cool:

i didnt work for me last night. When I woke up I think I did to much movement, and my mind fell back alseep with My body when I reaced about 100 or so.

so some success and some failures…o well. lol. ive had mostly success with it…but im getting tired of waking up in the middle of the night…i no like it. lol. so im going to try another method…ill quote it here.

it doesnt require any waking up early stuff. and there has been a few success stories. so im up for it :smile:

I tried this last night when I went to sleep and I also tried it a few times in the morning. I visualised the number while I was counting. What happened to me was that I started getting confused after a while and I didn’t know that number I was on, I guess I must have lost consiousness for a while and then regained it. And I only did one RC and that was after counting for about 10 minutes. All the other times I just fell asleep before doing the RC. I guess that I might have fallen asleep when I lost track of my counting, so I will try harder to do a RC night.

This method seems to really accelerate my falling asleep process. I think I fell asleep in maybe 15 minutes last night :eek: , it usually takes longer than that for me to fall asleep. I think I will try again tonight but I will only visualise untill I notice that I’m getting close to sleep, I will then just count and I will hopefully remember to do a RC.

Well, I tried this out for the first time last night and was rewarded with my first induced ld. I don’t remember much of it beyond doing the RC and still being able to breathe, but it worked.

This sounds very interesting! i haven’t had a LD in weeks. Maybe this will help?

I tried this last night, I put my mobile phone to wake me up during the second, third and fourth REM-period and I then counted without visualizing the numbers. I remember that I realised that I should be counting and that I then woke up, but that’s all that I remember. I’m not sure what happened, I might have had a LD and then woken up either IRL or in a FA. In any case I will try this again tonight :grin:

I was suppose to try this last night but, when I woke up this morning and have absolutely no memories the I have turned of the alarm clock… It is really spooky :smile: I guess I didn’t tried the tec either :sad: but I will try this night