the big MILD topic

This technique usually works for me on the weekend, as I can stay in bed till 9:00. I will usually wake up about 3 or 4 times between 7:00 and 9:00, which leaves plenty of opportunity to try MILD, often with success…

The only lucid dreams I’ve had are as a result of MILD, but nobody ever seems to post here. What are other people’s opinions on this technique - and why does nobody ever want to talk/ask about it?

It’s not that nobody wants to talk about it, it’s just that I guess MILD is pretty self-explanitary.

When people are first learning about Lucid Dreaming, they can’t help but think about it while they are lying there waiting to go to sleep. Since this is really all you have to do, there isn’t a lot of oppertunity for home-made theories about how to make it work better.

Besides, MILD is something that you can do every night, regardless of how many other techniques you’re trying to stuff into each day/night.

It’s a classic method from Stephen himself, and you can find descriptions of it anywhere. What more do you want to know? :smile:

Well, what about developing prospective memory etc? MILD isn’t just as simple as lying there thinking about it, you have to remember to remember you are dreaming. Some people can’t even remember to do things when they’re awake! I think if people concentrated on developing their prospective memory, they could have incredible success with this technique.

i usually find that surfing this forum for half an hour or so before bed gets me thinking about LD’s and in dream serveral time something would remind me of LD’s and i’d do a reality check out of curiosity, and they usually work,

it the same principal than the way you usually dream about what happened during your day, if you think about LD’s alot you will become better at dreaming about them, which inturn increaces your chance of becoming lucid.

I do MILD every morning at 4:00 and this often causes me to dream about lucid dreams, or have fake lucid dreams - but not actually become lucid.

The problem I have is falling asleep with my mind concentrating on one idea - I can only fall asleep when I let my mind wander (in fact usually I can’t stop it wandering and then I fall asleep). Once, it worked because I managed to fall asleep with the ‘mantra’ as the last thing on my mind.

Can anyone give me any advice about falling asleep while repeating the phrase, or any modified versions of this technique which might be easier? Thanks

Obviously nobody wants to talk about MILD :sad:

Actually, it looks like all the sticky topics are getting a bit of a rest at the moment. If anyone has any questions, ask away!..please :grin:

I just posted a question, it’s the last post on page one. that’s why I made that comment - because nobody was answering!

When attempting a MILD, you don’t actually have to fall asleep thinking about LDs. It probably helps, but according to the FAQ on lucidity.com the idea is just to repeat for as long as it takes to ‘set’ your mind with the intention to have a LD.

If you’re dreaming about LDs and having FAs, then you are probably getting pretty close. It’s frustrating to be that close and still fail, but at least it tells that your mind is infested with the idea of LDs, which is always a good thing.

A study was conducted a while ago to determine the easiest way to get to sleep. They told one guy to count sheep, and two others to do different things (Sorry, this was posted here a little while ago by someone else and I can’t remember how it went). Anyway, the guy counting sheep took the longest to fall asleep because counting things (or repeating a phrase) keeps the mind active.

Just do it for 10 minutes, then relax and fall asleep.

The MILD procedures requires that your ‘intention is set’ - but what exactly does this mean and how do you know how long it takes/whether it has happened?

ALso - isn’t it possible to set your intention without repeating a boring phrase again and again, ie. thinking entirely about your intention to remembering you are dreaming instead.

I really want to develop this method because, although it seems difficult, in the long run it will hopefully lead to a reliable method I can use when I want.

When I had just lds (time of the dino’s lol) I used mild a lot
I did several times a day an act as if I was dreaming and had a ld…I looked around me and said “wow what a real dream this is”
While I was in traffic or just walking somewhere or making dinner I did this exercise…
I also read always before bedtime about lucid dreams…that helped to…

But what helps for me most…is really to crave 4 a lucid dream with all my passion inside me…(not my inpatience :wink: )
And then several times aday like a sort of sub program…really want to have one…like a little boy that knows he gets the gift he wants 4 his birthday and he consciously thinks of it but also subconsciously…it keeps living inside him allday long!
That worked 4 me the best in those beginning days…
It doubled the speed of getting a lucid dream instead of not focussing on it at all…So dont expect miracles…but yes it helps if u are really dedicated.

Good luck! :smile:

This method worked once for me but hasn’t worked since. I woke up at 6:00 am and then started to write down Lucid Dreaming on a piece of paper for 5 minutes then I did a MILD excerise for 10 then went back to bed. Shortly I was in a dream realized I was dreaming but never got further than that over my back tightening

Recently I have started staying up longer, about 30 mins, then doing MILD. I have had surprising success - lucid dreams every night. I can pretty much guarantee that it will work when I do it. I reccommend everybody try wake-back-to-bed with MILD.

Ok, it’s a deal.

I’ll wake up somewhere between 5 and 6 tomorrow morning, and stay awake for 30 minutes. This will mean getting to sleep earlier than midnight tonight, but I think I can swing that. Might try this in conjunction with the Holy Grail method.

Heh, ‘Holy Grail’ method. I know it wasn’t meant to be called that, but I think I may have somehow officially declared that as the name. :grin:

I think the same way as Kobrakai - I too believe that MILD can be an extremely effective technique once you get the knack of it. But until then it can be a rather loooooong way…
There is one thing I would like to ask connected to this whole procedure: the WBTB method. Does or did anyone have problems getting back to sleep after staying awake for an hour or so (and if you did have this problem how did you work with it; was it just in the beginning, did you decrease the time spent awake, did you try to stay in bed, or similar)

Morpheus

I had some serious problems with falling back to sleep. I tried a whole whack load of stuff. Do a search on insomnia or something to that effect and read some things.

Some things that I found very good or VERY STRANGE were:
Counting sleeping sheep???
Listening to music(I made a CD of rain forest sounds, very soothing)
Deep relaxation(I think thats what its called, its a progressive relaxation of your entire body, kinda working up from feet tensing and relaxing)
Attempting self hypnosis(it wasn’t suppose to put me to sleep but it did every time :grin:
Warm milk
Rubbing your tummy
Wiggling your toes(feels very strange if you do it for a couple minutes and then relax them)
*After doing some of these for a while I was able to just go back to sleep no trouble so after you pass this hurdle it should be clear sailing.

But back to the WBTB MILD it seems like a great idea. The sheer willpower developed to wake up in the middle of the night could help. Also, there is less time until REM so the intent to have a lucid dream would still be fresh. And lets not forget the longer REM periods. This all seems to point toward greater success. I’m starting this up again tonight.

I think I’ll give WBTB and then MILD a shot too. I always fall asleep when I just do MILD.
Tell me, do any of you have trouble getting to sleep after doing WBTB? Are you too awake to fall alseep right away or is it smooth sailing from wakefulness to dream? I just want to know because I’ve never actually tried it.

The first couple times it can be hard to get back to sleep. Depending on how long you stay up it will be harder. One time it took me 2 and half hours to get back to sleep. Just enough time to get woken up by my alarm clock. :sad:

If you have trouble getting to sleep again just try a couple things from my previous post :tongue:

I’ve done the warm milk thing before when I just wnated to get more rested. And I’ve counted to sleep too, maybe once or twice. Anyway thanx for the input.