or… i had extreme luck and had abut 3 LDs last night and in every one i lost visuals after about 10 secornds
I attempted a WILD WBTB, but got board and lost cons.
one dream was my over dream were i was naked on a bus… i did a RC(nose one) and it failed i screamed, I AM DREAMING I AM DREAMING lost visuals went into another dream, walking around on a street, and did the RC again this time muttering to myself how real it is, looked at a billboard and consentratd on how real it looked, asied to see my dream guide, lost visuals and went into another dream did an RC said I AM DREAMING I AM DREAMING lost visuals, went back to the bus, a guy came up to me saying, i notice that you are RCing, and Im like you are my dream guide and he like no, im going to a dinner party you wanna come? i lost lucidity at this point then had a great dream about rading a dinner party with cavemen.
it didnt have the feel of lucid dreams…
also my nose didnt have the ‘tingle’ of usually doing the nose thing
i also attempted to put my hand though something and failed miserably
also usually my lucid sky is spinny and wierd, today it was just, erm, not visible, like i coun;t notice it.
what do you think? did i have 4 lucid dreams last night? or did I have 1 ND were my sub-c was being a jerk?
I am also a very n00bi LDer and 4 LDs in a night is incredable.
i think my sub-c was being a jerk, and right after i got lucid, it was BAMB i lose visuals, and into anthter dream, i RC, and bamb lose visuals and into another dream…
careful on spinning. u might end the dream/ wake up. it is a common way to stay in a dream longer and change the setting…but it is risky. rubbin hands/eyes is less riskier and has the same effect.
yes, I am pretty sure that that is the definition of being lucid. Although, I did once have a dream of being lucid when I actually wasn’t. It’s hard to explain, bt I did several of the things that I had wanted to do in a LD, but had never gotten the chance to do.
PS, On the former Ansemreport.com, there was this guy that has a username over here. He wrote a fanfic called Kingdom Dreamless. I was just wondering if you (if u r reading this) had finished the story. ^^ It was reely gewd ^^
I believe it is possible to say, “I am dreaming”, and still be not lucid… But it is not the case. In that state it is impossible to remember so many things to do, like RC and noticing the level of realism and reading bills and looking for a dream guide… When such quasi-lucid stuff happened to me, it never lasted longer than the time needed to think, “Hey, it’s a lucid dream”. I never did something more than one RC, after which I completely forgot about dreams and everything… So your dream was definitely lucid, no doubt.
Your dreams were lucid. The reactions you have in them ( doing RC ), the problems you have in them ( losing visuals ) generally only happen in LD.
I used spinning twice in order to change the dream randomly… First time, I had a false awakening. (So perform a RC just when “waking up” after spinning !) Second time, I lost visuals
I tried rubbing hands once, when I had no more visuals and it worked perfectly. After that, I had one of my longest LD.
Once i had a non ld dream, but i had a ld inside of it! only a week ago!! ok me and my dad were on something, scooter, running really fast or something. he said “Be careful you spine is very important!” i said ok okok, then i fell and tumbled soooooo many times. when i was done, i knew what happend. my legs were all over me, my arm messed up, and of course, my spine all retarded. my dad looked at me with SUCH a look of utter horror that still haunts me. i couldnt talk cuz my spine was cracked so i lipped “Help Me”, then he had an even worse look. after that i remember being in a hospital, then going uncontious. this is when i had a dream, in my dream. when i was in other dream world, i was outside my house. i knew right away what happend. i said "Omg, i broke my spine so now i am in a dream world, for a very long time! maybe im in acoma so i can LD forever! did a bunch of stuff! i swear, i did wake up though, but i cant remember how.
Grrr ! That’s exactly what happend to me this night ! I wanted to teleport. spin ! and woke up.
I was hoping it was just a FA… and made a lot of RC, but no… I was fully awake.
I wonder how S. Laberge computed his f*** statistics when he says that 96% of the spinning lucid dreams were prolonged !
Grrr !
Can anybody else confirm the problem with spinning ?
Same problem here Basilus West… I’ve tried spinning only about 5 times, and I woke up everytime. I never used it again. Bad tech for me… though it’s probably all in my mind Yeah I also wonder where LaBerge gets his statistics…
I always stick with focusing awareness, hand rubbing and touching dream objects. Works fine in my case.
mystic, remember to think about the wind etc while spinning.
I suppose LaBerge uses an EEG and compares the recorded REM periods to the usual ones.
All in the mind, all in the mind. Spinning is a disaster on these forums (everybody says so, which only enforces it) but it’s probably all the rage at Lucidity Institute.
It definitely sounds like you were lucid to me. Try to remember to stay calm and as someone above mentioned try rubbing your hands together to stabilize things.
With spinning remember to keep your eyes open. I found that helps prevent FA or waking up completely.
After that, I had one of my longest LD. 
I wanted to teleport. spin ! and woke up. 
Yeah I also wonder where LaBerge gets his statistics…
