Whats the point to living if you...

[color=darkred]It’s all about balance !!
Just remember ‘idle hands are the devil’s workshop’
but at the same time… . . don’t be an ant… u know ?
balance it…

U gotta trick yourseldfinto likely things, that u don’t like…
who’s to say work can’t be fun ?

For instance… I luv coffeee… it makes me feel good…
I only let myself drink coffee when i’m at work, school or am studying…
then my body is like… ‘whoa… i like studying… cause i get a coffee high whenever I do it.’

and u can do that w/ a lot of things…
your just conditioning yourself… …

u think dogs like doing foolish tricks ?.. Hellzzzz Nooooooooooo… .
but if they get a cookie for it !! It’s heaven…

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Maybe you just looking at things from wrong side.I understand what you wrote perfectly ,i personally would be much more happy with the world without work.And without school.
But after i have finished my schools(yeah im glad its over) i look at it differently.All that subjects,homeworks,learning and stuff is to help you find your own way.By learning so many things you`re able to tell what interests you, what are your pros ,what cons you have.That knowledge gives you strong basis to decide what to do with your life next.
Without school you wouldnt know half of your hobbies and interest.Without school you wouldnt be able to get a girl for a cofee and not make her bored to death.Or get bored with her.
You might now think its all pretty useless but as you go further with your life you slowly discover how lucky you were to get the education.
Cuz people without education risk selling themselves to fat sex tourists:)See it as a chance:)
And work…yes…like it was said before…it is important that you go in direction that interests you.Nothing worst than having a job that you hate(maybe except having a wife that you hate:)

Its apart of growing up, and once your mind gets there, you will realize that working inst bad at all. Just imagine if you sat around everyday? Joy would loose its luster and fun would be re-named. Catch my drift? If your having fun 5 times a week what would you do on the weekends? Everyday would be Friday! :cool_laugh:

There really isn’t any point to life. It’s your job to create your own reason. If you can’t, well then you’re just out of luck like me. Don’t let others try to give you some explanation.

Everyone has their own reason.

That was helpful, and I thought of my post more as philosophy rather than a complaint.

Well the point of school is to get a good job. The point of a job is to get money. Money runs the world. If you work hard in high school an college, you can mantain a fair amount of money. Without money, you could die. The point of life is to live. Not to die. Also, knowledge is power… mwahahahahaha.

Crouching lotus lol you could be a great teacher! :smile:
not that you would want to be one , but still!

“Crouching lotus lol you could be a great teacher!
not that you would want to be one , but still!”

I learn to be a great teacher by doing the opposite of what my teachers do.

MM that must be some kind of progressive behaviour then lollol!

don’t listen to everyone else, just turn to drugs, they can always make you happy and put meaning to your life.

And you lose your real life…

The same goes with alcohol. You slowly lose your abilities, and ability to enjoy the life when sober. I have been near to it :neutral:

Anyway, if you are jobless after ending your school, you might feel what it means having “holidays” 7 days a week. You just survive and you actually do much less profitable things that you would do if working. I admit that many jobs are killing your abilities, but people occupy them, because they can’t have better job (for different reasons). But basically if you are lucky and get somehow decent job, then you at least feel yourself many times better than just having leisure all the time (IMO). And it comes not only from knowing that you get salary from it. It kinda develops yourself too and gives you more confidence and happiness in life.

I guess that with occasional (mental) jobs what i do, i’m happy. Even if i wish to have permanent job. But in other aspect it would hinder my ability to have a control over my time and work during the hours i have chosen. And more time for LD’s for me also :tongue:

Simple answer: Would you rather be dead?

I didnt say that I wanted to die :bored:

Hehe, yeah. I think it would actually in the end be better to get a job, i think you would get bored…

Well my history teacher tought me some stuff…

You know how in the middle ages they didn’t educate people? They didn’t educate people because education forms opinions and if they had opinions, they might revolt and of course no nobility wanted that. Education isn’t only to have knowledge of your physical world, but it develops opinons, develops personality, teaches you how to react with people (well in preeschool and kindergarten and stuff). It also helps you accept society and realize their are rules to follow, and you have to follow them to let society run it’s path. Without your education you probably wouldn’t be here right now. Education helps get you interested in stuff. The best learners are probably ones interested in the material. School is a good base, but living those days without school helps give you experiance on matters. If I think something is interesting, or controversial, or wrong that the teacher says, I’ll look it up on the internet. It’ll form my opinions. You thought lucid dreaming was cool because you had opinions. One of the best parts of America is you are free (of course). Since you are free you aren’t subject to conformity and you are allowed to think on your own. A quote in my history book said, “One who has not endured the stress of study will not taste the joy of knowledge”. That’s so true. If you don’t work hard you can’t really assimilate anything therefore not giving you knowledge. Have you ever seen something and felt facts and knowledge flow to your thoughts. Maybe not, but it’s happened to me. I hear, see, look or think of something and I feel so much the opposite of ignorant. It’s nice to know when you know how something works and you feel intelligent. Now I’m definetly rambling…

Well that’s my opinion on School… consider it. It’s not really developed because I thought about it on the spur of the moment (I could probably right 2 pages on it but I’m not at school :happy:).

Work…

The purpose of work is to run society and keep a fair way to live for everyone. Well that’s not your question but… What’s happiness without saddness? Excitement without boredom? Pleasure without pain? Yeah, you get the point. As someone above said, if you didn’t do anything than you’d become a hobo and nothing would seem exciting anymore. This is a harder question than school though… I think the purpose of living with work is to live to your max potentional. I wouldn’t consider laying on your couch all day eating potatoe chips and watching TV living. The point of work is to earn money so you can survive I guess. Damn that answer sucked…

I seriously doubt anyone will read any of that. I guess I’m just talking to myself.

This is bit derail but just got stuck on my eye once again. Seems like this freedom slogan has been deeply rooted on every american at school. So many people so often say it at boards, i as a northern european scandinavian who lives in diplomaticly neutral socialist democracy find it just bit funny. You know, its not that unique to america really. And i wouldnt be too loudly even shouting that when considering the politics in your country these days. Patriot Act? Protecting freedom by restricting indivual rights? All this antiterrorist hysteria and higly questionable attacks to Iraq and Afganistan. Come on.

Here you have freedom to not to work or do anything at all, and still state supports you enough to have decent house and enough income to maintain basic necessitiesof life(that doesnt include 50’’ plasma screen home theather), no frustrated hobos wandering around because they got no other choice.

And as you dont need to earn money for your surviving, you might dedicate your life into something you really want to achieve during your lifetime, like if you have artistical dreams or want to become full day meditator/home-yogi/seeker… Society doesnt have any rules against that, but it has indoctrinated attitudes to people so that they run like ants that the big materialist wheel can keep turning with all the time rising acceleration… and the big question is, where is it even heading?

Though you might always seek yourself education that would allow yourself to make world a better place through job at society or go do some humanitarian aid where its needed. Also even without such job, just the small little efforts and enviromental friendly choices you do at shop have their small impacts, and with many doing those they turn into rivers that big companies cannot no longer to dismiss, such action isnt going to save the world, but at least its doing some good at the limits of normal working citizen.

I did, glad to hear you like learning, its what its all about. Hopefully someone read my rant aswell. :smile:

It was wonderful reading all u guys opinions on this subject…particularly Crouching Lotus & linnnunhammas’ :wink:

I’ll call you linn for short :stuck_out_tongue:

Linn, you say that “This attribute is not unique to America [freedom]” (or something like that :razz:), I’m not sure what the term is, (maybe free economy or something), but America allows you to keep the most money you earn. For example, Cuba, being the communist country it is, can take 100% of anything you have. America has the lowest “rating” for this.

I think both of our governments are good (at least the part where you don’t HAVE to work to survive). The problem with that is, the government has less money to fund things like schools, libraries, etc.

I don’t really like learning :razz:, but I like to have a lot of knowledge. I hate to be ignorant and not know what I’m talking about (like kinda in this post… that’s why my point of view sucked for convincing people). Although, I am going to be thankful of my education regardless if my school sucks (which it does).

Well I’m 13, so I am a bit more ignorant than any of you guys/girls…

You don’t seem ignorant.
You really do seem like a knowledgeable person. :happy:
I really like how you don’t post like
“omg ill call you linn for shrt
ya say that “blababla” or somthin im not shure what that is but amerika allowss…”
which I know alot of younger people post like.

Maybe 'tis just me (I always like to say 'tis… so much easier than it is…:razz:), but typing coherently is so much easier than typing like a monkey on crack… I can type pretty fast (well faster than pretty much anyone in my school… but that isn’t saying much… I can type like 120 wpm but enough bragging :grin: and also, I realize people take you so much more seriously if you type correctly.

Now, I realize that this is not what you meant, but I really hate it when people act like the US is the only democratic/free country in the world, esp. the uber-patriots. I guess we used to be trailblazers or something, but those days are gone. . .

Y’know, something like “This is America, land of the free, people can go from rags to riches! There are no social boundaries!”, as if Germany is still under Hitler and Britain still ruled by a monarch.

(Kind of thinking about school I guess, today in 4th hour we got on the subject of dreams…two of my buddies were talking about “dreams you could control”. I did a couple RCs but I wasn’t dreaming. :sad: )
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