How To Observe Your Physical Body Fall Asleep

Wait, why would anyone remove this at all? I don’t get why you were considering this. I’ve actually had this happen to me a few times before, and I guess it explains why I get this HUGE urge to jump right out of bed and throw down the headphones while I’m testing NNS.

This has me hooked, I’ve experienced this countless times during WBTB and I’ve never gotten a LD out of them. Is there anything more? How do you get yourself into your dream while in this state?

GREAT info mljones, glad you pointed this stuff out that I otherwise would have ignored.

OK, lol I had this question in my mind on WILDs, and I think you answered it! I mean yesterday, I was playing Hitman Contracts and was very tired, and I got to the point where I could concentrate and see random levels where I would be walking around, I mean where for brief seconds I could see it… but I would always look around at my scenery. Also, I would shift alot.

So, who cares if it is spam, its damn great information. Also, at least he is not flooding the forum. And, third, at least it relates to the topics on this forum (for example he is not trying to sell you vacuums and crap like that).

So, I will try what he is saying to do and apply it to have a lucid dream and post the results… now before I have entered sleep paralis (lol how do you spell that word!) before and had I thought my roomate entered my room without permission and was watching me sleep, but then I was not sure HOW I got there… so I am glad hehe. Oddly, later, I did have problems with my roomates entering my room (they removed the door from the hinges to bypass the lock).

I’ve been trying WILD every night for about a week now. Almost every night i try, i can get sleep paralasys easily (or atleast i think i do) my whole body goes numb, stiff and heavy - and i cant feel my hands or legs but i can still move my fingers or toes if i try. I get past the whole “uncomfortable sensation” part because i have pretty good will power. but after that, i just cant seem to get any further. i get some HI and some sounds but they dont last. I’ll sometimes be lying there in that state for up to an hour with out getting any further. so is there something im not doing right? how do i get to the next stage? aaaaaaany help? :help: is this kind of wierd… cos when i have read about WILD, it appears that when most people do it, SP occurs just before their LD starts, but then again i might not be experiencing SP, just numbness i guess?

-krayzee-

I don’t think he is selling any thing, I went to the web page and checked out the Lucid Dream And OBE Timer. It’s free. It’s just a web page with timers set to wake you at different itervals. I don’t thinks it’s spam at all, But if it is, then we got lucky cause it is usefull spam. My 2 cents.

that’s very informing and interesting, i think i’ll try it but i’m really bad at being still for awhile and i’ll probably move around or just fall asleep all together :eh:

Prehaps you did go OTT with all those links. Prehaps one links is enough.

Usualy it is an itch.

Yes, it’s a feeling of floating and then being heavy, while floating.

That was quick.

No, your body is nto really itching or hurting. Now lie down and ignore it. :tongue:

this is pretty interesting, im gonna try it out and see if i can make it into SP or even HI… i’ll post results later :content:

I’m sorry, but I dont see this as being something possible. For one, many people who lay still for half an hour get an itch on their nose or something, and have to scratch it. And…I just don’t see this as making your mind “awake”. I would just fall asleep like I do any other time. I tried this twice, and neither did it work. I was irratated and woke up like I had just had 10 cups of coffee.

Sounded interesting, but I just don’t see it working…

I tried this method a couple of nights ago, and it worked great. I’d been laying in bed for a while and it didnt seem like I’d ever fall asleep but just about that time I felt my body go numb and had intense vibrations. The next night it was more or less like I was laying in bed when suddenly I started falling. Both times it happened I had very low level LDs but I couldnt really do much with them, however they were the first LDs I’ve ever had. This has been the only method thats worked for me and I’ve been trying for over a year. It probably just works better for some people than for others but who knows.

Do you have to stay on your back to use this method, will sleeping on your back increase your chances?

Note: I’ve tried this method about 15 times now. About 8 on my back and 7 in random positions. I’m getting better and closer to Focus10, i’ve learnt to conquer the itch, the irritation, the swallowing etc

we’ll i tried it out and i didn’t move anything except maybe making very small moments and after some time i started feeling the itching, i tried to keep myself conscious but for some reason it didnt work, so both my mind and my body went asleep after 25 min of lying completly still… :sad:

oh well… at least i could fall asleep, now i just have to maintain consciousness

Oh cool yeah this is how you get into SP. It takes some major discipline and time. Hehe, i cracked up when i read ‘but this is just a ruse!’ not because it was so funny (well it was) but because it was so true!

The feeling of onset is definetely unmistakable. Its like your body just shuts off and its in a very brief wave that spreads through your body. Its so cool, it feels like youre powering down or something (think of a bunch of electrical wires just stopping w/ the electric flow and all the machines on the ends just shutting down like ‘whooooom’), and your body feels like it just melted into the bed, like it created a groove in which your body fits so well that you can no longer feel it, just a little ‘heavy’. After that you can go onto floating state, vibrational state, very easy vivid hypnogogic, whatever you want.

I think though that the mind activity has something to do with it. This wouldnt work if you were thinking about stuff chaotically (like the day, etc) because you’ll just lull yourself to sleep with such thoughts or keep yourself awake all night. A degree of mental discipline is required in which you still your mind. Meditation really helps here, especially if you know how to suppress the conscious awareness of time (or have unbelievable patience). A major killer of the whole effort is thinking ‘i wonder how long ive been here’ which may lead to doubt and/or awareness of time’s passage.

What i would do is set your mind to ‘passive mode’ (meditation) and set the intention that you will regain conscious awareness once SP sets in (it’ll hit you like a ton of bricks if you didnt fall fully asleep). That way you dont have to ‘wait’ so long.

I must say that you came across something new here - the body sending signals to the mind to see if it gets a reaction. Fascinating. I wonder where this would come from, though. Like the brain stem or a portion of the mind in effect testing itself? A somniologist probably would be able to explain the mechanics behind all this. Anyways, great idea!

Isnt it that statistically most conscious SP occurs on the back? (for me, it does, a case study for ya)

SP usually happens in most positions for me, but I think it does happen a bit more often if I lie on my back. And I haven’t really tried reaching SP the last months while going to sleep. I usually start focusing on HI, but then I usually fall asleep or I might wake up and then I can’t fall asleep. I think I could get SP somewhat easy if I had time when going to sleep. But that’s hard now since I have to get up in the morning and go to school.

I have noticed a funny thing the last few weeks. Sometimes when I’m falling asleep I can sort of feel like I’m about to OBE or something similar. It’s hard to describe but it feels like something soul-like or something is going out of my body and then I’m back to normal and then I fall asleep after a few seconds :help: anyone had this?

I think it started happening after I a similar feeling once while I meditated. Then it felt like my body was beeing dragged in different directions.

And lastly I would just like to say that I enjoy reading your posts Sentient :cool:

yeh i get that feeling i guess its normal cuz i’ve had it so many times. You get kinda dizzy and feel like your conscious is at a different location (like half a metre away) and its spinning in the air. Then after a few seconds it ends.

I got that uncomfortable feeling before!! It feels so awful ( I moved, but I resisted it for a while) how long does it usuall last? I will try this tonight. sounds quite interesting

How come i never get that uncomfortable feeling, even after 1 hour :frowning: maybe i’ll just keep practicing :smile:

This urge to move I know very well. It’s a feeling you can’t really compare to anything else. Perhaps a bit like itching or getting tickled, you just feel like you HAVE to move. Yet, it feels completely different from itching or tickling, but this urge to move is similiar.
Unfortunately, for me it doesn’t go away within some seconds. If I try to resist, it’s getting stronger and stronger until I finally give up (I think I’ve done this for perhaps 2 minutes or something). The instant I move it is gone.
Also, sometimes my muscles start to move completely out of my conscious control. One leg or arm simply jerks and then the feeling is gone
:neutral:

I don’t think it happens the same for everyone. I know when I try to do WILDs its nothing like that. I have also never had SP. My body wont fall asleep untill the last second then I will be inside a dream instantly.

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My body test me using the itching method LOL as you say it gets stronger and stronger an stronger almost insupportable but I have succed to resist and then it partially vanish only to come another one that you have to resist again but its true if you resist all the attaks your body thinks you are asleep.

i remember i would get so itchy that the part of my body would give a strong twitch.